Nevermind you lost me again. Bro what are you on about??
The tiger1s are an easy pen angled by any m82 shell at 6.7, that’s a death sentence. there’s practically no way to defend themselves at 6.7 against american 90mms using a short 88mm. that’s just stupid
the panther d could use an uptier to 5.7 because having a slow turret is not an excuse to being 0.7 BRs below the other panthers. but that’s about it.
and seriously, puma for 5.0? have you lost your mind? the only thing its got to it is speed, and honestly if you die to a puma and think it should be fair to put it at 5.0, that’s a massive skill issue there. 100mm pen at 5.0 in a light tank is stupid and you should feel stupid for suggesting that too.
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Are you comparing a radar missile with an inertial guidance system, protection from dipole reflectors, more maneuverable (P24P) with a missile that runs away from any dipole reflector (countermeasure) even when the Mirage’s radar is not shot down (530F)? In order to compare them, find out their features and the meaning of the postscript in the missile characteristics - Front-acpect - shoot down. In particular, how it works in the game. By comparing them, you showed your knowledge base on radar missiles. Moreover, some of those who encounter MLD do not see launches of radar missiles at themselves - shall we forget about this or is it something else? The R-60M will not work at 400 meters, at most from 700+ - I managed to shoot them down - personally. If you have problems with them - this does not mean that everyone has them. This is an average quality missile in all respects. I’ll note that I didn’t say that the P60M is equivalent to Magic2, but it’s not quantitatively clear if you know how to use it. The examples of aircraft you gave meet MLD, and all your arguments can be projected onto MLD and the result is the same, even worse because there are radar missiles that can shoot down long before the collision. Don’t forget about the RWR, which is much better and gives quite accurate data on enemies, which allows you to play better in defense. Comparing the Bison and the 2000Mirage (4/5) - with better FM, radars, combined weapons - is abnormal. The Bison - has only a worse maximum speed, but 1 on 1 will win. If we take 16 on 16, then the Mirage is played exclusively from defense and the moment when the enemy has not noticed you, while the MLD - can play both aggressively and passively. As for the wing sweep, in the game if it comes to this, you can set it up and manually control the sweep, thereby both maintaining the speed in the range you need and surprising opponents in one turn. All this number of countermeasures on the Mirage 144+48 helps only from infrared missiles and not all of them… And against radar and AMRAAM only the height helps and not all of them. If the number of countermeasures is a balanced norm, then the Taiwanese F16 with 45 countermeasures at 13.7 and without a helmet-mounted radar missile guidance system is at the level of the F16C. For some reason, they did not take this into account here as a balanced value. By the way, 72 counters to the MLD are enough for its combat rating.‘’ Being slow usually means you get 3rd partied and for the late game all it takes is the MLD being caught side or rear aspect within roughly 1.4km to get smacked by a Magic 2’’ - you can also catch a mirage, basically anyone who is not looking around. This is an empty take.
You got to be kidding me right? Tiger E are not equal to Tiger 2 or T34 lmao
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try telling that to the AMX13 , AMX M4, EBR varients, SA 50, m4a1 FL10, AMX 13 FL11, and so many other french tanks,
because funnily enough, you defend germany that way, but that exact probleme is whats going on with france, and it seeems the hate to france is randome and trendy
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Not to be offensive or anything but nobody is reading all of that, consider writing less because the only way I or other people will read all of this is if we’re legit getting paid lol.
Ja, please hilfen becoz me 262 nicht know what das MiG ist.
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Mate you scared me like hell showing that bastard of an image. Panther D pens T-34. T-34 goes side and Panther needs to wait 30 secs since it’s got a battleship turret traverse stock.
Kan you pae me 200 GE and I will reed it.
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the amx m4 won’t have any problem at 7.0
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they are equal to the T-34 though /j
This is my last argument to a person who is useless to answer. Who does not know the basic mechanics of radar missiles and gives situations in which anyone can be put with the same result. So I apologize for the writing )
He means the US T-34.
Move the comparable vehicles up instead.
M41 to 7.0 along side the amx-13
Puma to 5.3 along side the EBR ‘51
Sherman firefly to 5.3 with the Sa50 sherman
M24 to 4.7 since it’s better than the Amx fl11
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why put it at 6.7? move it to 13.0 its clearly too op
Ik, the US T34 will probably wreck tiger iis
oh lemme tell you why one by one.
the amx m4 got the pen of an american 105mm aphe but instead of the 20 second reload it’s 6.7. it’s only fair if it gets uptiered to 7.0 to be on the level of tanks like the t44-100.
the EBRs are simple enough. EBR 90 gets the same BR as the AML, amx-13 90. british Eland. I don’t see what the problem is, considering they got the same rounds and the amx is similarly mobile as the rest.
EBR 75 is stupid, i agree,
but the SA-50 is just for where it is. It’s a better sherman firefly. It’s got actual depression and is uptier proof. it’s good where it stands.
m4a1 fl10 is an autoloaded 5s 182mm (pen) slinger. no need to defend that.
and i do agree with the amx13 fl11 being stupidly placed, it’s just a bulldog at a higher br. and the amx13 moving up is also dumb, but you’re defending the wrong things there. more than half the stuff you mentioned isn’t unjust, they’re well placed.
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T-80UE-1
BR changes: 11.7 to 12.0
Other changes: optional relikt package and 3BM60 available
Those who things taking a su-34 can avoid the ka-50+UE wallet warriors on their team must think the otherwise
This is a joke
The 88A as well as the type 69G II get a 203 angle pen dart.
Phenomenal at 9.0, 57kmph forward speed, composite on the hull, a more effective composite than the t55am as well.
Better turret traverse as well as i believe better optics but might be off there.
Aps doesnt magically make you immune, for a start its specific arc of effect, secondly its not a great aps as , not like the chinese or british one.
You keep saying this and time ans time again ive proved you wrong.
The t55a, amd1 and am1 arent that mobile at all, why do you insist they have “great” mobility its roughly the same Horse power per ton as a damn chieftain.
Dont say thats mobile.
Im not suggesting the tts move up.
Im saying the tts isnt a great 9.0 yet is still miles ahead of the t55AMs
Notice how im not complaining about the 435 moving up? It is capable to go to 9.0, has a 14.5mm machine gun, decent mobility and armour profile as well as a 115mm cannon.
The t55am1 doesnt have the penetration to effectively face off against 10.0s.
But i digress you obviously dislike the tank and would rather see it butchered than balanced.
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Mode: Ground Realistic Battles
Tank: Ariete
Change: 11.7 → 11.3, replace DM53 with CL3143
Reasoning: The ariete is worse than any other MBT in the game, since its armor and armor packages are not modelled correctly (Community Bug Reporting System). If those won’t be fixed, then just remove the DM53, give it back its own real round and move it lower in BR.