Welcome to our Battle Rating change proposals for the month of April
We’ve got several Battle Rating changes for aircraft, helicopters, ground vehicles and naval vessels.
59 Likes
Still no changes to A-10 and Su-25 spawns?
66 Likes
Since the Fox is going to 8.0 can we get NVD’s back on her?
52 Likes
OK, decompression battle rating ground RB to 13.0 for aircraft top tier and 12.3 for helicopter top tier
But, US Army AH-64D not increase BR to 12.3 (Ground RB & SB) ?
17 Likes
AMX-13 to 7.0
French players punished for being too good once again
280 Likes
Naval getting more compressed, why? It really desperately needs decompression, not making things even worse
Please totally rethink all of the naval changes and go the opposite way with them and more too please
73 Likes
I see there’s a minor effort to decompress aircraft in GRB, but frankly speaking that’s totally inadequate. Air needs some serious decompression, and same for ships and top-tier ground vehicles. Without those changes, any BR adjustments are just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
39 Likes
Mode: Air Realistic Battles
Aircraft: B-26C (France)
Change: 4.7 → 4.3
Reasoning: The American B-26B is at BR 4.3, and the B-26C should be lowered from 4.7 to 4.3, as both are identical regarding flight performance and weaponry. The only difference is their production locations in the USA (B-26B in Maryland and B-26C in Nebraska), which led to different designations. So why is this still overlooked?
83 Likes
Mode: Simulator Battles
Vehicle: A-10C
BR Change: 11.7 > 12.0, Rank 7 > Rank 8
Reasoning:
The A-10C has always been very potent in simulator battles since its launch. It still dominates red side fighters with little effort. It gets 4 IRCCM missiles which are currently the best for simulator battles, Very good sustained turn performance with very low stall speed, vast arsenal of A-G ordnance, MAWS with a lot of countermeasures. It is a very good all-rounder in simulator battles now.
Its potency has only increased with the introduction of GBU-39 glide bombs. It can effectively clear 1.5 front-line battles by itself or it can clear airfield AA of two airfields without any risk of getting close and thus leaving the enemy team at a severe disadvantage. No other plane has this capability until top tier.
One might argue that this plane is slow and it justifies the low BR, that isn’t a weakness IMO. Being slow makes it very easy to fly low without crashing and makes you invulnerable to any radar missile (not to mention that it doesn’t face any threatening radar + missile at its BR).
This plane is also effectively well protected against IR missiles with the combination of very good MAWS + lot of countermeasures + low heat signature.
This plane deserves a BR increase to 12.0 / 12.3 considering its insane survivability + earning potential right now. Provided that it’s armaments is much more similar to rank 8 than rank 7 planes, I recommend this plane to be placed in rank 8 along with the BR increase.
45 Likes
Mode: Simulator Battles
Vehicle: F-4E Phantom II
BR Change: 10.7 > 11.0
Reasoning: The F-4E Phantom gets all the advantages of an F-4E platform in game. It gets Agile eagle upgrade, AIM-7E-2 missiles with better performance and CW seeker, guided bombs, guided AGMs, vast arsenal of dumb munitions, digital RWR. This is set at the same low BR of an F-4EJ which lacks behind in many ways compared to the F-4E. The other planes at 10.7 are also inferior compared to the F-4E (like F-104s). F-4E should be placed at a one step higher battle rating.
28 Likes
I see France is receiving its punishment from Gaijin again.
103 Likes
Mode: Simulator Battles
Vehicle: F-14A
BR Change: 12.3 > 12.7
Reasoning:
The signature weapon of the tomcats were always more potent in simulator battles compared to realistic battles (Even before multi pathing nerf). The limited situational awareness and limitations of first person game-play makes it harder to counter the phoenixes in the same way as ARB. Not to mention the lack of capable counter vehicles to F-14A.
I still remember when F-14As reigned supreme in simulator battles when it was at 11.7. It’s only real competition was the Mirage-2000S4/5 and they’d often be on the same side.
I request the SB BR placement of F-14A and other tomcat variants to reflect RB BRs.
24 Likes
Mode: Simulator Battles
Vehicle: F-14B
BR Change: 12.7 > 13.0
Reasoning:
F-14B eliminates the disadvantages of the F-14A which are engines, low countermeasures, limited RWR and rear aspect missiles. ARH carriers will always be at an advantage over SARH carriers in simulator battles and the F-14B does not face any ARH carriers at 12.7 and below.
This plane does not sacrifice anything, it has good radar, missiles and flight performance. This is under tiered at 12.7.
I request the battle rating to be adjusted to be the same as RB battle rating.
22 Likes
Really amx 40 10.0 now ???
74 Likes
Any plans to change GRB BRs for aircraft below Rank 6 before the end of the decade?
19 Likes
amx13 to 7.0, with only 200mm pen, great idea gaijin, time to give them apds then.
wyvern 4.7 can go straight (back) up to 5.0 where it belongs, since it’s buff it’s an extremely potent fighter.
q5 a/l 10.0 with no missiles, and subpar performance for their br, why?
h34 to 8.0, which one? The US, the French, both?
the rockets moved at t1 for hueys is a great addition.
90 Likes
Mode: Simulator Battles
Vehicle: F-14A IRIAF
BR Change: 12.7 > 13.0
Reasoning:
Fakour-90s need no introduction, they are the one of the best ARH missiles below 13.0. They are fast (gives very little room to react), maneuver well (cannot be dodged kinetically), have very long range (rivals R-27ER). These missiles are set on the tomcat air-frame which is one of the best air-frames below 13.0. This plane is under tiered at 12.7.
I request to adjust the BR of this plane to be as same as the RB BR.
20 Likes
Irrelevant, as there is nor 12.3 rotation anyway, so it de facto already IS 12.7.
What Sim Air needs is a rework of those rotations, with currently 3 BR’s which are never on top. For 13.3 it’s just sad.
9 Likes
KV-1B/E
Ground Realistic 4.0 → 4.3
With the KV-1S moving up it makes no sense for these to remain at such an atrociously low BR, and club any match which they are present in and still perform very good in uptiers
81 Likes
Mode: Simulator Battles
Vehicle: Tornado IDS ASSTA1
BR Change: 11.7 > 11.3
Reasoning:
This tornado doesn’t have anything of advantage in air battles compared to the 11.3 variants. They have the same bad flight model for air combat, same AIM-9L missiles, same cannons which do questionable damage. There is no logical choice in why these tornadoes are set at a higher BR.
It is my understanding that strike aircraft with limited air to air armaments and combat performance should get better armaments compared to the fighters of that BR. For example, they should get all aspect missiles when fighters have rear aspect missiles, IRCCM missiles when fighters have all aspect missiles and good SARH missiles.
At 11.7, all aspect missiles become a common thing among fighters. Mig-23s get up-to 6 all aspect missiles, Thai F-5s and Kfir C2 get Python 3. Mirages get Magic 2 with IRCCM in sim. You face fighters with long range SARH missiles and PD radars just a step above in BR.
Please reduce the BR to match the 11.3 variants.
32 Likes