This tornado doesn’t have anything of advantage in air battles compared to the 11.3 variants. They have the same bad flight model for air combat, same AIM-9L missiles, same cannons which do questionable damage. There is no logical choice in why these tornadoes are set at a higher BR.
It is my understanding that strike aircraft with limited air to air armaments and combat performance should get better armaments compared to the fighters of that BR. For example, they should get all aspect missiles when fighters have rear aspect missiles, IRCCM missiles when fighters have all aspect missiles and good SARH missiles.
At 11.7, all aspect missiles become a common thing among fighters. Mig-23s get up-to 6 all aspect missiles, Thai F-5s and Kfir C2 get Python 3. Mirages get Magic 2 with IRCCM in sim. You face fighters with long range SARH missiles and PD radars just a step above in BR.
F-14B needs to get it’s deserved AIM-9M.
It was uptiered to 13.0 in Air RB, where most counterparts do have IRCCM missiles
Especially considering how much BOLs are underperforming
This strike aircraft only gets 4 IR Missiles (non-IRCCM) while the fighters at same BR get SARH / ARH + IRCCM IR missiles.
Furthermore, plane isn’t fast enough to outrun fighters, gun placement is awkward to get used to. This plane simply doesn’t make sense at 12.3 against fighters with much superior flight performance and armaments.
This tornado doesn’t have anything of advantage in air battles compared to the 11.3 variants. They have the same bad flight model for air combat, same AIM-9L missiles, same cannons which do questionable damage. There is no logical choice in why these tornadoes are set at a higher BR.
It is my understanding that strike aircraft with limited air to air armaments and combat performance should get better armaments compared to the fighters of that BR. For example, they should get all aspect missiles when fighters have rear aspect missiles, IRCCM missiles when fighters have all aspect missiles and good SARH missiles.
At 11.7, all aspect missiles become a common thing among fighters. Mig-23s get up-to 6 all aspect missiles, Thai F-5s and Kfir C2 get Python 3. Mirages get Magic 2 with IRCCM in sim. You face fighters with long range SARH missiles and PD radars just a step above in BR.
its beyond stupid how bad the situation is
the changes to Mohawk and Marne are fair ones, but at the same time it creates the ridiculous situation where a WW1 escort sloop is now just 1.0 below a 1940s destroyer designed with cruiser duties in mind
This plane is very limited in its air to air armaments to justify being at 12.3. It doesn’t get a useful radar for finding air targets, doesn’t get in-built guns and the external gun pod is placed in an unusual location and affects performance, only two IR missiles.
Ideally, this plane should be at 12.0 while the Mirage-2000D RMV should be at 12.3 for its passive IFF capability.
This plane is very limited in its air to air armaments to justify being at 12.7.
It doesn’t get a useful radar for finding air targets, doesn’t get in-built guns and the external gun pod is placed in an usual location and affects performance, only two IR missiles.
Situational awareness is limited in simulator battles compared to realistic battles. Kfir canard suffers severely from this lack of situational awareness. It has no viable radar to find / IFF enemy planes, RWR is very limited without any track / launch warning / J band detection, has only two rear-aspect only IR missiles with limited G-overload, oddly placed countermeasures.
Its main competition is Mig-21 bis platforms with a usable radar for the BR (with IFF and invisible to Kfir’s RWR), more and better placed countermeasures, 6 all-aspect IR missiles with high G-overload.
This doesn’t seem balanced. Please reduce the battle rating of Kfir Canard in SB to 10.7.
Reasoning:
This vehicle has been severely overtiered on release, it has the firepower and survivability of a 3.0 comparable ship(the Soviet Groza at 3.0) but its at 4.0, it just doesnt make any sense having this vehicle at 4.0. Can we at least get some explanation as for why the devs put this ship at this BR?
I agree, but if new BR brackets are announced and 12.3 becomes top BR, F-14A will reign supreme. Battle ratings should be applied appropriately irrespective of current BR brackets imo.
Reasoning:
The marginal armour increase over Colbert, doesnt justify the BR increase since the armour is still rather weak for the BR, also both Colbert and Dupleix lack historical AP ammo capability as additional ammo option over the HE and the SAP currently available