Nevermind. This takes 3rd place.
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I think this is the reaction we we saw the French changes ngl
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Vehicle: SB2C helldiver(SB2C-1/3, SB2C-5(FR/JP))
BR changes: none
Other changes: received attacker spawn
Given how it is usually played as a fighter, the helldivers has impressive first-loop agility and compensates speed bleed with high spawn altitudes, allowing them to down bombers easily. To alieveate the issue of bombers being impossible to play at this BR, the helldivers could be moved down to attacker(CAS) spawns which allows them to still received a kill or two. At the end of the day they are bombers, not bomber-destroyers.
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Mode: Air RB
Vehicle: F4 ICE
BR Change: 13.0---->13.3
Reasoning: Its too op with aims 120 on lower br’s especially againts 12.0 jets.
Vehicle: B7A2/B7A2 H23
BR changes: none
Other changes: frontline bomber spawn removed, received attacker spawn
The homare 23 is even better than the helldiver at engaging attackers, fighters or interceptors. The same reason applied here, the bombers already has to rush bases to contest with wyverns, making them easy targets for bomber spawn ryusei and helldivers.
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Ho-ri br decrease anyone?
Like all Ho-Ri production has better than Jagtiger is engine power (only ho-ri production) and its almost br higher it really should go back to 7.0 at least or even 6.7 since Jagtiger is 6.7. While premium Ho-Ri prototype at 6.7 is just joke aggainst other heavy tank destroyers tbf. should be 6.0 at best since even Jagdpanther is way better.
Ho-ri prototype 6.7 br vs Jagtiger 6.7 br:
Ho-ri production 7.3 br vs Jagtiger 6.7 br:
Discussions on ho-ri:
The Ho-ri Prototype and Production BR
Ho-Ri Prototype and Production
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who cares about breech/mantlet protection when all the 72s have a <100mm flat plate under the gun
look at the glacis protection
Good mobility+armor=amazing
It has above avrage mobility
And while dm13 is better its still has good shell that can pen all tanks with no issue with great spall
Rly great tank it is one of if not the best tank in 8.7 and it can go up with no issue
Preferrably these changes should be implemented together with removing the airspawn of wyverns. Either as an energy fighter or bomber, these things will make most players have a frustrating day, either getting shot down by it or unable to chase it in most fighters.
Skill issue. Will you suggest removing bomber spawn to every bomber that has front armament?
Most bombers with forward armaments are not particularly agile. Tu-2 is an exception and it may change, everyone else has only a handful of 50cals at most.
How do British, highlight, British bombers deal with them using .303s?
U compare top tier aps?
The fact ur immune to (yes immune) to atgms from the front is huge
Add the great armor good mobility and nice canon that can pen things with no issue and u got a monster in 8.7
Removing bomber spawn from torpedo/dive bomber like ryusei is absurd. Its never gonna happend since they would have to remove airspawn from every fighter bomber. Ryusei is not attacker. People in Helldivers, Avengers, Ryusei or stuff like that get kills because the enemy is bad and dont expect bombers to dive at them. Not because their planes are some wonder weapon. They are still heavy bricks and will lose in dogfight if you play correctly.
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Helldivers are extremely stiff and they are dumb in roll. To attack a stirling Mk. III - a 4.7 bomber mind you, it is still more than adequate. They are only able to engage a few target before the energy runs out, but some of those targets are either completely incapable of retaliation or is poorly suited for it. Again, stirlings: four .303s on a side on or head on, zero defense for coming under.
Whell its more mobile then shot kal and all the magachs u cry about
Not miles they both on par the tts has better fp while being less mobile with big profile
No aps ofc and bad armor against non heat
Ofc it can its better then t62 which is allready pretty good
Intresting u dont cry about is3 terrorising 6.3 or t72 on 8.3
So yes i rather 1 vehicle to “suffer” then all 7.7 suffering from it
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…So what was your original point then? They’re both still easily killed by LFP and anywhere with ERA on any of the T-72s is a strong point. I can’t say I’ve ever been penned through my UFP without the ERA in that spot being destroyed. Meaning the TURMS-T is just a B with thermals.
I don’t get why the AM-1 is going up but the AMD-1 absolutely needs to go up.
Does it make any sense that M1A1 and IPM1 are at the same br?
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The AM-1 is clearly superior to the AMD-1 with its turret armour… the APS does not weigh up the difference.
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