Reason: It is an f4j equivalent with a worse fm but more speed, this shouldn’t be seeing aim 7fs every game. Its base bombing ability is the only reason it is this high and even then mig 23s get to the bases before you every time anyway. If the mig 23m can be 11.0 while being better in every way but flare count then so can this.
Hey, guess what they put in it tho… a fucking laser warning receiver. Thanks italy, i really needed to know when someones pointing a laser pointer at me.
95mm of pen vs 86mm of pen, how does the pgz have better pen lmao. I have no idea where you got the velocity from since it doesnt say anywhere how much velocity each round has. The fire rate difference isnt even that big. The only reason that makes sense is that its got better survivability, since the zsu-37-2 is also staying at 7.7, but increasing a vehicles br just because it has better survivability against strafes is just weird to me
WDYM? Those APHE versions of M61 were one of our historical ammunition.
And there were tons of suggestions held from British players to make it real.
Maybe, but well, if those are overperpoming rn, and according to well-known Brit-hatred over War Thunder, I reckon this could be consequences which we can handle.
Higher WR than before? Then BR increase.
Unless Gaijin fix APHE’s damage model to a realistic one, it is our right to get our own M61 APCBC-HE while others were using those already.
I really cannot understand why let Gaijin take the buff back to their shelves when we just earned it after long fights.
Because of nothing but to keep your self-ego alive.
Of course we can fight and win without APHE, but when having APHE is also historical, I see no reason that we should kick it back.
Historically, we both know that was the reason why we decided to focus more on solid shots.
But, in War Thunder which soviet APHE doesn’t explode immaturely, having APHE is lot better than using solid shots.
Especially when both M61 APCBC/-HE share almost all aspects.
only thing we need to do for Churchill VII is:
Add a feature to demount the fuel trailer of Crocs
When you unlock M61 Shot, give the ability to use both solid shots and APHE.
Vehicle: M-51
Gamemode: Ground Arcade
BR Change: 6.3 —> 5.3
Reason: The gun sucks. Actually, the gun is the worst thing about the tank, besides its terrible mobility and armor. The high penetration is just overkill and not even necessary, it would be a better tank with APHE.
Not to mention the HEAT makes it unable to fight on forest/grass.
Edit: The tank is actually OK if you are fighting vitality stats 0 enemy tank crews, otherwise the spalling doesn’t do much.
Can we please move up top tier tanks to rank 13.0 or 13.3 so that we can seperate br12.0 from the highest echelones of the game in ground realistic mode?
Never, it has no reload speed or mobility nor does it have thermals to be moved up to 9.7. It is also not a widely seen tank in game to impact the game as much as lets say T-58 which should also not be touched.
Your Dm 33 launching vehicles are being buffed to 9.0 so no reason to worry about a thick armored tank.
this and the M113 ADATS could probably even go down to 10.7 and not be that busted tbh, the 2S6 is 10.7, and they were equals for the longest time, and suddenly they’re 1.0 different in BR with minimal changes?
Reasoning:
The Sd.Kfz. 234/2 is a German light tank that is utilized across a wide BR range from 3.7 to 6.0. In GRB, situations in which the presence or absence of an Sd.Kfz. 234/2 on the team decides the outcome of the match are extremely common.
Nah, the sad part was it was probably always bound for 5.0 APHE or not. The Crocodile has been sitting around 60% winrate for like the last 6 months. It’s also got a very decent KD. Which I would say did far more damage to the Mk VII going up than APHE.
which take 2-3x times more than a single large cms.
i am not even gonna try to make you understand. if you dont know the value of the speed and acceleration in top tier bvr, your missing the whole thing.
using the weak to make other look equal look strong to put then in disadvantage at a higher br. not the way to go.
It the Leo’s are going down in BR, why are the type 74 e/f not going down in BR they are worst in every other aspect of the game. Hell even the STB 2 and other 8.3 japs are already over BRed only getting APDS at 8.3 and they will be facing leo’s with 400mm pen rounds better mobility and thermals?
Look at the other 8.0 to 9.0 like ztz59d1 gets darts with the japs 8.3 only gets apds?
i am not even gonna try to make you understand. if you dont know the value of the speed and acceleration in top tier bvr, your missing the whole thing.
I know very well how good the value of speed at top tier is, considering I perform at least 2x better than you at almost every 13.0+ plane you own
Your average stats
Additionally, the difference in acceleration is only noticeable at low altitudes, past 5000-6000m which is hte altitude you should always be at the thrust and acceleration curve are nearly identical.