pantsir s1 / smv track radar.
nuclear escalation air rb.
no i dont. the f16 can easly keep up, only difference is the amount of missile.
all mentioned except for the su30sm and f15cge have low thrust and low countermeasures
talking about speed. here all 14.3 speed test from 400 kmph to 1200 at 4km alt.
AESA is a massive improvement already in-game
you’re underestimating it severely
90% of my experience in the F-16CM was before the premium flankers were added, back then there were far less premium noobs
it’s fine.
I’m going to assume you mean pantsir S1 due to the br the Ka-52 sits at.
Ka-52 actually wins lmao
it can shoot vikhrs and dumb rockets much faster than the pantsir can shoot its missiles
Ka-52 vs Pantsir fights are pure MCM fights until the Pantsir loses due to how slow its fire rate is or until it runs out of ammo.
Either way the Ka-52 doesn’t face the pantsir at all unless you’re playing SQB or got unlucky with a mixed matchmaker
against top tier ARH SAM’s it doesn’t struggle at all. It can multipath or notch them easily (you don’t even need chaff)
against top tier IR SAMs it is able to flare off one or two missiles and then get into cover
It can also then just yeet dumb rockets from the spawn with great acuraccy due to the cockpit rocket ballistic computer and HUD
it is
the top brs are mega compressed
vehicles like the Su-27 should NOT be at the same br as the MiG-29 (9-13) and should not be able to face 12.0 phantoms
above 13.0 it’s even worse with the premium flankers
That’s not air rb, entirely different gamemode
Doesn’t exist in air rb
Yeah, sorry I forgot the German’s F5.
Vehicle: AUBL/74HVG
Gamemod:Ground Realistic
BR Change: 8.0—> 7.3
Reason: The 60mm gun doesn’t do that much damage with 248mm of penetration and repeats every 5.0 seconds. If you have the best crew, the tank is not effective against other tanks in its br.
all mentioned except for the su30sm and f15cge have low thrust and low countermeasures
You are completely clueless on top tier. Gripen E carries ~700 with BOL and F-18E carries 120, while the PoBIT carries 90. J-10C has less CMs but all of them are large caliber, while the PoBIT/16V is stuck with 30 large and 60 regular, so J-10C has significantly better countermeasure efficiency and a built-in MAWS.
Also, there are only two planes with slower time to speed in your own graph - JAS39E and Su-30SM.
talking about speed. here all 14.3 speed test from 400 kmph to 1200 at 4km alt.
If you think a 1-2 second advantage in high speed acceleration is worth an entire BR step, I’d hate to hear your opinions on the rest of the BR system. Shall the J-10C go up in BR now, since it has better speed, a built in MAWS, a significant missile advantage, and a better dogfighting FM?
Because gaijin literally said that the reason theyre adding this spaa is to fill a gap in the chinese spaa line. Also if theyre raising the pgz88 in br, why dont they also raise the veak 40 since its just straight up better?
Beacuse it has worse guns, worse armor, and a worse radar.
After seeing the recent Battle Rating changes, I’d like to suggest an idea that could help solve one of the biggest issues in top-tier Air RB: BR compression.
The biggest problem isn’t necessarily that one aircraft is overpowered. It’s that aircraft from different technological generations are forced to fight each other simply because there isn’t enough BR space.
A good example is the MiG-29 (9-13), Su-27, and Su-33, which are all currently at 13.0.
These aircraft regularly face fighters such as the F-15C, Su-30MKK, Mirage 2000 with MICA missiles, and other aircraft equipped with modern Fox-3 missiles and much more advanced avionics.
However, not all of the 13.0 aircraft are equally capable in these matches.
For example, the Su-33 has access to a much stronger weapon loadout, a better radar, and is overall a more capable platform than the MiG-29 (9-13). Meanwhile, the MiG-29 (9-13) only carries two R-27ER/ET missiles and four R-73s, while also having a less reliable radar that can struggle to maintain track.
Simply lowering aircraft like the MiG-29 (9-13) to 12.3 or 12.0 wouldn’t really solve the problem either, because they would then fight aircraft such as older F-4 Phantoms or the Su-17M4, creating another balance issue in the opposite direction.
Instead, I believe the long-term solution is to expand the BR range and introduce another rank for aviation.
This would allow earlier fourth-generation fighters, such as the MiG-29 (9-13), Su-27, Su-33, F-15A, F-16A, F/A-18A, and similar aircraft that primarily rely on Fox-1 missiles, to fight each other more consistently.
More modern aircraft equipped with advanced Fox-3 missiles, superior radars, and newer avionics could then occupy higher BRs without compressing everything into the current matchmaking range.
This wouldn’t just improve balance for a few aircraft—it would create fairer matchmaking across top-tier aviation as a whole and give Gaijin more room to introduce future aircraft without making BR compression even worse.
I believe expanding the BR system is a healthier long-term solution than continuing to adjust individual aircraft while the overall compression issue remains.
Thank you for taking community feedback into consideration, and I hope this idea can be considered for future Battle Rating updates.
We need decompression like two updates ago
The veak has 40mm guns, the pgz88 has 37mm… How is that worse? Also you really think that armor has any impact when it comes to these vehicles?
Yeah, I think we’ve needed a major BR decompression ever since the Su-30SM2 was added with its AESA radar and other modern capabilities.
I just hope some of the community managers or developers see this and at least consider addressing the issue. I think it would make top-tier air battles much healthier in the long run.
PESA, not AESA
but they’re functionally identical anyways lol
They will see it
They will ignore it
That’s how it is unfortunately
Vehicle: Object 279
Gamemode: Ground Arcade
BR Change: 9.0 —> 9.7
Reason: It is too good to be 9.0. It has a 3.86 KD according to Statshark in Arcade mode.
Vehicle: F-104s.ASA
Change: Air rb 11.7>11.3 OR stick at 11.7 and be given 9ms
Reason: I am in this thing getting 90% uptiers facing mig 29s, f16s AND F-14s with no rwr (An rwr that doesnt tell you direction or missile warning isnt an rwr at this br) is futile. Either give it 9ms which the ASA got irl or move it down to 11.3 where it belongs.
Muzzle velocity, penetration, fire rate. pgz88 is significantly better in every regard.
Armor helps a lot, it is significantly easier to overpressure with a near miss or strafe the VEAK than it is the pgz88
The z10 easily outmatches the z19, it makes no sense for it to be at the same br since i have no idea who would pick the z19 over the z10
F-104 RWR: “Hey, something might be pinging you”
Player: “Can you tell me what it is?”
F-104 RWR: “Nuh-uh”
Player: “Can you at least tell me the direction?”
F-104 RWR: “No. Fuck you”
This one has always annoyed me. Ammo, fine. Gaijin have said numerous times that ammo is a balancing factor for them. But they strive to have accurate models. If they want a version without it, when you have the modification turned off then just don’t show the mounting brackets and launchers.
