Sorry, Mr. Professional Player. But realistically, the F-4J is at a disadvantage at its current BR
Ofc it’s worse than stuff at a higher BR? That’s why they’re a higher BR
It’s still not.
You compared F/A-18 (12.7) to F-4J (12.0). Of course, the F/A-18 has a superior radar system, but that doesn’t mean the F-4J needs to go further down.
F-16As are not much of a threat because they do not have radar missiles except for the F-16AJ with its two AIM-7Fs, so I fail to see the issue here.
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The F-4J simply doesn’t belong at 12.0. It’s at a clear disadvantage against many of the aircraft it faces. A reduction to 11.7 would be much more reasonable.
Compared to other 12.0s isn’t it on the better side?
Watch it perform badly at 12.3 with AIM-9Ls, then wait for it to move down. Once it does, both the F-4J and F-4S will have AIM-9Ls, and the British Phantoms will too.
They will have identical weapon set as fighter tornado basically. Minus cm pods ofc.
It’s funny because the FGR.2 is going to receive AIM-9Ls and SuperTEMPS, but it will have to move up because the developers said it would be too effective at 12.0. Meanwhile, the Tornado stays at 12.0 with the loadout the British Phantoms should have, and the aircraft that was literally built to replace them.
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You really don’t seem to understand much about aircraft technology or dogfighting.
The F-16 Early’s infrared missiles are objectively superior to the F-4J’s. One of them, the AIM-9L, is an all-aspect missile and is much harder to decoy with countermeasures. On top of that, the F-16 Early is more maneuverable, faster, and lighter than the F-4J.
Comparing the F-4J to the other aircraft at the same BR again, the F-4J can only maintain a lock on one target at a time, unlike aircraft such as the F-14 and the early F/A-18 variants.
There is a trick which bypasses that
Why bother using AIM-9G on F-4J when you have the best all-aspect AIM-7F, and you can carry six of those :clueless:
Geez, I wonder why. Definitely not because of keeping the afterburner on and leaving a trail of flares behind.
Well, yes, because the F-16 was next-gen and a newer airframe. It’s at a higher BR for that reason.
Early F/A-18 variants and F-14s with Sparrow missiles cannot lock on more than one target. Only those Hornets with AMRAAMs can, which the F-4J won’t even see.
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Which can also act as dollar store fox 3 with 1 secret trick. And hms makes executing this trick even easier.
Indeed.
This is just plainly false
You gotta word that better man 💀
Vehicle: EC-665 Tiger UHT
Game Mode: Ground Realistic Battles
BR Change: 12.7 → 12.3 (or at minimum 12.3 if 12.0 is considered too low)
Reason:
The EC-665 Tiger UHT is significantly weaker than other helicopters at the same Battle Rating.
- It carries only 12 PARS 3 LR missiles with inconsistent post-penetration damage compared to Hellfire 179, Spike-ER2 or LMUR, making kills much less reliable. with anti AA only x8 PARS
- It has no cannon, leaving it almost defenseless against helicopters and low-flying aircraft after expending its missiles.
- It lacks DIRCM, making it much more vulnerable to modern IR-guided missiles than helicopters such as the AH-64E, Mi-28NM or Z-10ME.
- Its maneuverability is good, but not enough to compensate for the lack of survivability and defensive capability.
- Unlike many competitors, it cannot combine fire-and-forget ATGMs with an effective gun system for self-defense.
The UHT’s only real advantage is the PARS 3 missile, but this is offset by its low missile count, inconsistent damage, lack of a gun, and lack of DIRCM.
At its current BR, it is consistently outperformed by helicopters that have more missiles, stronger ATGMs, better survivability, and superior anti-air capability.
A BR reduction to 12.3 would place the Tiger UHT in a more appropriate position without making it overpowered.
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You don’t know what you’re talking about… The F-16 Early and the F/A-18 Early are both 12.3. Stop debating a subject you know nothing about or how it works.
All you have to do with use the HMS and spam 7Fs…
It’s not false. The F-4J fights against aircraft that are superior in several aspects, with better maneuverability, better missiles, and better radar systems.
Every plane in the game experiences this phenomenon
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