The T-20 got a BR increase some time back, taking it to 6.3. Because there are so many 6.7-7.3 vehicles in all tech trees, the T-20 gets sucked into the uptier singularity on a regular basis. There’s nothing worse than going around a corner in a T-20 and there’s a couple Tiger IIs or a T44-100/IS3 sitting there with engines off. The numbers are skewed because people like Spookston plays it–a man who makes all tanks look easy to play. The reality is most who own it either put it on the shelf after the uptier or perfect the art of dying. I have no problem killing the rare T-20 when it shows up on the battlefield.
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4.0 might be a stretch.
They should lower it to 4.3 and see how that shakes out.
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You are right in saying that I am not going to agree with you, but that’s not because of the specific vehicle.
It’s because I cannot look at the planned BR changes and say:
“Yeah, you know what, let’s reduce the BR of these ones as well, there isn’t enough green on this table yet.”
Have you seen the armor on Ho-Ri Prototype?
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Yes. There’s nothing wrong with it.
Pz.38(t) n.A
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Rank: Rank I → Rank II
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Add Spgr. 34(t) (HE)
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Add Scouting
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Correct top speed (Bug Report)
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Correct Pzgr. 40 velocity (Bug Report)
Rationale
The Pz.38(t) n.A is in a somewhat similar predicament to the BT-7M. It has the potential to be a capable rank 2 scount, but at its current rank, it feels redundant when the Pz.38(t) F is already an option. Adding the scouting ability would allow it to step into a currently unfilled role for Germany’s 2.3 line-up.
Spgr. 34(t)
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Ho-Ri OP BR 10
Seriously tho WTF. Over pen?
It’s higher BR than Jagdpanther or SU-100. Worse or same armor than both. Larger than both. Slower than both.
Why do you say 150mm of flat armor (at most) on a giant, slow TD is “nothing wrong”? At 6.7 with comparable mobility we have the Ferdinand, which reverses 4x as fast and has much better protection.
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gaijined lol, bring filler next time
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Anything above 4.7 can deal with this thing just fine
Is M103 worth using with HEAT?
I’d always bring some HEAT
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Most likely better than the solid shot. I haven’t gotten to it yet.
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Ho Ri Prototype 6.7 ➜ 6.3
The Ho-Ri Prototype would be the perfect counter to the Jagdpanther and wouldn’t struggle as much in a full uptier. Moving it back down to 6.3 is long overdue.
J6K1 6.7 ➜ 6.3
This aircraft needs to move down in battle rating. You hardly ever see anyone playing it because it’s constantly fighting 7.7 jets.
The main reason it was moved up in the first place was because people kept trying to turn fight it. The same applies to every other turn fighter that’s being moved up: if you’re flying an aircraft that isn’t a turn fighter, don’t try to out turn one.
I’m saying this as someone who’s honestly a pretty bad pilot. If I’m the one giving this advice, you know the situation has gotten pretty bad.
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yea tigers 2 6.3, is 2 6.0 but t44 6.7 and FUCKIN m26 from usa and italy 6.7 gajin why u are so dum dum?🙄and t26e5 7.0, so leave it at 6.7 in this case lol, its so stupid xD
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If it wasn’t ok, it wouldn’t be at 6.7
If anything, the Ferdinand (and Elefant) should move up
Another decent example would be the Chi-Nu II. For the longest time, it remained at 4.3 BR and even had its reload speed nerfed, while the Panzer IVs stayed at 3.7 until recently. A lot of this came down to the players using the vehicles rather than the vehicles themselves.
If there was a Panzer IV in the Japanese tech tree, I can almost guarantee it would have a higher BR than the German version simply because of the players.
At one point, they were thinking about moving the Chi-Nu II up to 4.7. So, pretty much, the tanks are okay, but Japanese players are built different and are amazing at the game, which is why the Ho-Ri Prototype is 6.7. Once everyone gets their hands on the Ho Ri, it’ll probably move down in BR.
XM has stabiliser
Full 360 degrees of turret rotation
better mobility
better gun handling.
Definitely a sidegrade to something who’s only real gimmick is being smol and gen 3 thermals
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Also they would actually fit into lineups