JAS-39A, JA-37D, F-16A MLU, F-16A ADF (Italy), JH-7A, MiG-21UPG
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Bison also, though it’s premium.
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All the stuff you named except the viggen and jh7 would go to 13.0 if they got arh, and Sweden already has its fox 3 carrier, Italy has the av8b+ , China has j11 and j8f
Putting arh on the planes named would have a negative effect on the aircraft and overall tech trees they belong to
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JAS-39A could be 12.7 with RB-74 instead of 74Ms.
No reason to keep aircraft artificially nerfed. Especially for Italy as the ADF never used AIM-7. The US has the F-16 and F-15, and Russia has the SM and SMT, so why shouldn’t Italy and China have 2 13.0s each? Italy also has the MiG-29B so there wouldn’t be a 12.0 gap, not that that matters considering ground only goes to 11.7 so there’s no urgent need for 12.0 CAS opposed to 13.0.
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You are aware most stuff in war thunder is artificaly nerfed trough armamant?
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How so? Italy for example won’t lose anything with uptier of their ADF, this plane is meaningless for GRB setups and more than that, there is also Hungarian MiG-29 at the same br.
Btw having AIM-7E is completely ahistorical for Italian ADFs since the capability to use them was removed.
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Because US and Russia are main tech trees and having the fox 3 carriers in 3 lines for US and 2 for Russia helps mitigate the grind required for the fox 3.
Italy already has 2 fox 3 carriers, IDC if they give ADF fox 3 or not as long as it goes to 13.0
Italy is honestly better than the US in war thunder now, 2 fox 3 is enough
Most aircraft have armament limited to a historical configuration, if it is limited at all. This is primarily to differentiate aircraft by br as often families of aircraft were all phased out around the same time and had similar ending configurations though different starting ones. Alternatively, it’s a balancing mechanic typically originating from when the aircraft were top tier.
However, there is no balancing concern because of course there are many equivalent vehicles.
And from a historical perspective -
The ADF only ever used AMRAAMs
The 37D was developed specifically for AMRAAM carriage
The JAS-39A never used Skyflashes, only AMRAAMs
So 3/5 have no excuse for it receiving their historical armament.
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JAS-39A is 12.7.
JA-37D is 11.3.
F-16A is 12.0.
JH-7A is 11.7.
And Mig-21UPG is 11.7.
None of those BRs can sustain ARHs with those airframes and lack replacement in those tech trees, thus none of them are missing ARHs.
JAS-39A is 13.0 with AMRAAMs regardless of IR missile.
There are no artificially nerfed aircraft in War Thunder.
Italy will be getting Typhoon soon enough anyway.
All are using correct armament.
I do hope they consider giving the Yak-141 R-77 and R-73 and moving it up a bit.
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Nah, Mig-29K would be better for 13.0.
These are two different aircraft, also I don’t care for a navalized MiG-29. Besides the Yak would be 12.3-12.7, if you compare to the AV-8B+
It’s the fastest and most maneuverable Mig-29 ever produced.
Mig-29M and 35 use the same engines, but are heavier for fuel and electronics.
Yak-141 with R-73s is 12.7 minimum. R-77s make it 13.0.
AV-8B+ isn’t a supersonic aircraft with the fastest climb rate in the game.
Then move it up to 13.0, it’s a interesting aircraft that would be even more interesting with its correct armament, also again, I don’t care about the MiG-29K, it’s boring.
There’s nothing to replace it for 12.0.
Also finding a naval Mig that’s also the best performing mig in airframe performance boring… lol
Isn’t the MiG-29A already 12.0
All of those aircraft are, by definition, artificially nerfed.
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Weird, it’s not a naval aircraft and it’s not in the Yak line turned naval line.
None of them are.
Does it have to be?