None of them are.
Does it have to be?
What exactly do you think a nerf is?
You didn’t say nerf, you said artificial, meaning without basis.
Zero tech tree vehicles are missing armament on their available pylons, thus no artificial removals, thus no artificial nerfs.
The exclusive, meaning only, aircraft in War Thunder missing anything is the A-10A missing AAMs on its dual mounts… however it is still two missiles on two pylons.
Yes, it’s not intriguing to me, I couldn’t care less if it’s the best variant of the MiG-29, I prefer unusual and unique aircraft.
The jh7a has 4 pylons that can carry missiles irl that can’t in game. Those are available pylons missing armament.
Prove it. I’ve seen a total of zero people before you making that claim, both on the forum and bug report site, and I searched the JH-7A on the bug report site as recent as last month.
@Kingtiez
The term is “couldn’t care less”.
I’ve seen you in various threads and I swear you only show up to play devils advocate.
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Weird since I’ve only ever stated things I believe, most of which is from other players whom learned these things before I did.
And on top of all that I only change positions whenever something superior comes along, and never revert back to a position.
Thus I cannot do as you claim.
And your claim is off-topic.
Your claim was also refuted by Kingtiez just now.
It’s perfectly on topic seeing as you’re only here to dismiss the topic as irrelevant and I don’t appreciate that. Arh missiles are incredibly powerful right now so all of these planes are kneecapped by not having them.
@actualsize123
All the planes are powerful to OP without those missiles.
It’s like you’re claiming KV-1E is underpowered…
If gaijin decided to put a kv1e at 2.0 but only give it solid shot despite the fact it carried aphe I’d ask them to give it aphe. The planes won’t get worse with the new missiles, they’ll just do better in an uptier.
Is the Sea Harrier FRS1 [early] better than the Harrier GR3 and AV-8A?
Is the Mig-21Bis better than the Mig-21MF/SMT? Do you fly out the CL13Mk6 or the F-86 A5?
Su-25K or Su-25SM3?
All of those have better engines too, yet far less people play the higher BR ones… You should wonder why that is…
They won’t do better in uptiers cause they will be up-BR’d to those BRs.
Then they’ll be facing Typhoons, Rafales, Su-57, etc down the road.
I’d happily take a jh7a against a rafale. Doubt a 12.7 would face su57’s though.
If Su-57 is AESA… it’s AESA Rafale equivalent.
Which to be fair, might be out of the BR range of 12.7s.
However, JH-7A is better at 11.7.
There are other strike aircraft that can be added for higher BRs.
My perspective is one that I adopted from Defyn, Jaek, and a few others: Aircraft shouldn’t be carried by missiles.
Pretty much avoid the best possible missiles, and let the airframes do their job.
It’s why I never want to see more than 9M and Magic 2 on the first Rafale and Typhoon.
Typhoon 3 and Rafale AESA? Sure, get IRIS-T and MICA IR.
I think we’re correct, and you might disagree.
The jh7a, before gaijin ratio’d everything that doesn’t carry arh missiles, did extremely well at 12.7. It’s only held back by its lack of radar missiles. It’s more like an f15 with only 4 aim9m’s than a su25 with r73’s.
The JH-7A was 11.3 before it went to 11.7.
And it performs well period.
Two Phantom engines that sip fuel, with 4 rather good all aspect missiles.
Good for self defense after bombing a base, or being aggressive with a pack afterward… or straight away as a makeshift fighter.
It curbstomps at 11.7 where it outmaneuvers everything except the mirages where it’s basically just whichever pilot is better wins. It’s got the best non irccm missiles in the game by far, and there’s absolutely no reason it shouldn’t get better missiles. With the separation of air and ground br’s there’s absolutely no reason this thing can’t go up to curb stomp at 12.7 instead of 11.7.
Personally I would not like to see those before BR compression is addressed. So let’s say JA37D, where do you put it, 12.7?
It’s gonna cause more problem down tier. As of now those FOX1 carrier between 12.0 and 13.0 is already not playable, please don’t extend it to 11.7 or 11.3.
I agree that the max br should be raised. It’s pretty silly that all the planes that carry these new missiles are basically the same br simply because they can’t be lower. Also if they raise the max br enough then maybe we wouldn’t have to deal with the top planes in ground.