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As annoying as copypasta is, if they actually used it in service then there’s no reason why not to add it.
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So they’d just get clapped by AA quicker and then people would complain about it. Better they all take off from the airfield and have the opportunity to build airspeed and take a favorable altitude for an attack run attempt.
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Sure and sure, and taking off from the airfield would mitigate that.
For props, especially early ones, below like 4.0 spawning on an airfield would be a nail in the coffin as they gain alitutde and speed incredibly slowly.
Imagine something like a duck spawning from airfield, let alone some fat bomber like PE-8 or Lancaster. They wouldn’t reach enough altitude and get clapped by AAs or pseudo AAs like Shermans or ISUs before having a chance to do anything
Some planes with extremely low climb rate and low engine power just can’t start from airfield, it would make them unplayable in GRB
But it is your problem if you are not using proper planes.
And that’s the con required to further balance CAS on top of adjusting SP costs accordingly. No it’s not ideal at specific BRs but it’s a viable solution nonetheless. No, not everyone is going to be happy but it’s a necessity regardless.
And this is all coming from someone who uses CAS very often.
Some planes weren’t designed to jump into a battle like 6 kilometers after they’ve taken off.
It would essentially kill any kind of planes below 3.0, probably all frontline bombers besides a few most advanced ones and half of attackers below certain BR.
A solution that kills half of vehicles it impacts is not a good solution.
Just increase spawnpoint requirements for all planes across the board and balance out rewards for shooting them down so that SPAAs don’t get essentially pointless
Proper planes? An HS 129 B-3 which was designed with a sole purpose of destroying armored vehicles is not a proper planes for CAS in ground battles? Or a Ju 87 that was devloped specifically for precise strikes and close air support is not one either?
This change would affect planes designed for CAS specifically the most. Only some heavy frontline bombers would be affected more, but hardly anyones uses those in GRB except for Pe-8 and Lancaster.
It would only strengthen an all rounder American style CAS aircraft meta we currently have in GRB. Things like F4U-4B Corsair, AU-1 Corsair, F8F-1 bearcat, F-82 twin mustang, Kingcobra, ITP (m-1) etc absolutely dominate ground RB on low - mid BRs as they have a metric tone of ordinance and and at the same time aren’t defenceless against fighters and other planes trying to shoot them down. They can also perform anti-cas role on their own.
Not to mention that they usually get more variety in their equipment which very often includes heavy rockets like HVAR or RP-3 that help out tremendously with AAs
On 7.7? no it is not. Have you read the topic?
Y’now there is a pretty easy solution- port Naval’s aircraft spawn (You can get a random fighter/attacker/bomber of the appropriate BR even if you have none in your lineup) over to GRB. Problem fixed :)
Maybe not you, but I’ve had fantastic success against early jets in late props. It’s not exactly difficult for them to get slow enough to become easy targets, and once they do the fight is basically over. No markers means a surprise attack is very viable.
As for the post topic: I wouldn’t be opposed to them spawning closer to the battlefield, but they should also spawn lower, especially for props. A 2km airspawn just gives a HUGE advantage to freshly spawned aircraft, which grants them a large energy advantage or the ability to dive very fast towards the battlefield and avoid interception.
For most nations at 7.7, the best CAS are still props, such as Russia, which still needs to use TU2, and France can only choose AD4. early jets can’t provide useful CAS, or their load-outs are not good enough, and there are nothing special for 7.7 which must have far away spawn points to make balance, so making 15 km away spawn is pretty silly, it should at least 8.0 to make sure everyone has enough jets
Have you read the conversation? By your answe it’s obvious to me you didn’t.
Guy propsed that all aircraft across all BRs should spawn on airfields
Not things like AD-2/4 which are massive but have the same engine as the much smaller Cosairs.
That wouldn’t really work cause alot of jets are far slower than prop planes at that BR. They could maybe separate it by rank (rank 5- v.s rank 6+) however planes like F-84F (and only the American F-84F) would get an advantage over most others. It’s very slow for an 8.3 aircraft, but still far faster than rank 5s.
No, since I don’t care and I don’t have to. I responded to op original topic, if you want to comment, refer to that, not some other discussion.
In every single comment i was replying to someone else.
Don’t join the discussion at all if you have no idea what is it about
see above
Me when I lie
But they don’t have the same engine. They have a bigger engine.
revenge CAS is already stupid, why would you want to make it faster