The second worst J15 still exists.
It’s a nation that’s going through a complicated period in the game; the PL12 nerf really needs to be reversed.
I agree with you, but all of this doesn’t justify adding PL15 right now.
The J10C and J15T need improvements, the nerf to the PL12 needs to be reverted, and the range of the PL12A needs to be improved.
Simply adding pl15 will not solve the nation’s problem; it will create several others, and the old problems will still remain.
I don’t think even that’s enough to save that plane.
He really needs countermeasures.
To be honest, I think the J15T’s situation is quite comparable to that of the Harrie FA2.
Of course, with its respective propositions and peculiarities.
The J15T should never have been released now without electronic countermeasures, or without additional countermeasures to compensate for the lack of electronics.
The FA2 is more radical; this plane should never have been in the game. I don’t think even if it were the only plane that carries the Fox 3 in 12.7 it would be good.
It should be written off and replaced by the Harrier II GR9A.
Can it get more though?
No, probably not. But its a start
I disagree. Sea Harrier FA2 is fine. The issue is a combo of a number of ahistorical nerfs like the fact that BOL is at 1/4 of its IRL performance and the Harrier being a total and complete mess. Combine with compression and its competing alongside aircraft that it should be seeing in uptiers not equal tiers.
Its the ideal early Fox-3 aircraft to go alongside something like the F-14A. 12.7 wouldnt be a huge change for it, but would do a hell of a lot more than they have for BOL or the Harrier in general in years.
Where the J-15T is largely stuck. The FA2 has a huge number of things that can be fixed and buffed to improve its performance.
Totally different roles though.
Harrier GR9A is just a Harrier GR7 with the Mk107 engine, HMD, TERMA and Paveway IVs. could get mmW brimstones in the future too. Other upgrades like Sniper or ASRAAM could be on the GR7. Though Im of the opinion it probably shouldnt get ASRAAM.
Gr9a cant carry aim120 ? Or other fox3?
Nope. No radar.
its just a GR7 with bigger Lerx and then some later upgrades like Brimstone, PW4 and TERMA. They also nicked the Jag GR3As HMD too like the Tornado GR4 did
There was a proposal to make a Sea Harrier FA3 using the Harrier II but never happened
I roll aim-7s all time
The thing I miss most about the J-15T is the countermeasures; it’s the hardest plane to spading that I’ve ever done a stock grind on.
I used to think the Kfir C7 and the F-104 ASA were cursed planes or had the worst stock grind, but as soon as I touched the J-15T I changed my mind.
The plane is completely passive; you can’t make any mistakes or even think about putting yourself at risk.
And you can’t just rely on not making mistakes; you need your enemy to make a lot of mistakes and for your team to have the advantage for it to work.
If your team loses map pressure or is outnumbered, you can’t do anything. If your enemy doesn’t make many mistakes and manages to no-shot you three times and then shoot you three times, you have no countermeasures to continue the fight.
It’s really sad playing with this plane, I’ve never been so frustrated playing with a plane.
The J-15T is so cursed that it doesn’t even have basic naval aircraft features.
He has no night vision and cannot be catapulted.
I almost die every time I spawn on the aircraft carrier; depending on where I spawn, I can’t take off.
The developers refuse to add night vision to the plane, even though there are videos of it making night landings in complete darkness.
Tbh. I found the AESA Typhoon one of the hardest aircraft ive ever had to stock grind too. Way harder than the FA2 with only 2x Aim-9L stock when it was first added.
The issue is the level of situational awarness everyone has, they always see you coming, you cant be sneaky. Which is the main tactic I always employ to stock grind anything lower.
Not saying the EFT is harder than the J-15T, only that stock grinding everything at top tier right now feels way harder than it did a year or so ago
The rest of it, yeah, I get that, but the question is. What else can really be done beside moving it lower or giving it better weapons that eventually would be added to everyone else, if not at the same time. Sure ECM might help too, but again, wouldnt come in a vacuum.
Easiest stock grind ever i had. How much top jet (rank9) u have?
It’s ridiculous that you can’t take off from an aircraft carrier with a catapult; I recorded a match where I and an AESA Eurofighter landed on an aircraft carrier.
As soon as the EF rearmed, it spawned in the air above the aircraft carrier.
I had to take off with less fuel so I wouldn’t die.
Edit: Sometimes it feels like a catapult is being used to propel us forward at the very end of takeoff.
And sometimes you just fall into the sea.
In this clip, afraid of falling into the sea again, I took off with only 16 minutes of fuel left.
Yeah, that is entirely dumb, though I have my own thoughts on that situation entirely
has J-15T been reported for the Catapult or is it a ramped carrier launch aircraft IRL? (which should still get a catapult like the Harrier)
Didn’t they accept a bug report about J-15T being unable to use a catapult and then completely ignore it? Cause I sure as hell remember one report where they said that it’s under review, it’s so dumb it takes them this long to fix something like that
This complaint has been around for a while now.
The night vision feature was never accepted, and the only thread they tried to create about it was instantly closed.
The funniest thing is that with a quick search on YouTube you can find a video of Fujian launching a J35 and J15T.
And with another quick 30-second search, I found a video of a J-15 making a night landing in Shandong or Liaoning. In this video, it’s not possible to see if the pilot is using night vision or not, but it’s very difficult to believe that China would risk its aircraft crashing into the sea during every night landing, because in this type of landing, the pilot lands in complete darkness.
F-35 is worse at QRA but better at CAS. F-22 is better/equal in QRA but worse at CAS than EFT.
Maybe 15.7 (Air AB, RB, SB)
Or gajin introduce 5th gen infrared Air-to-Air Missile before next generation active radar homing Air-to-Air Missile ?
An event vehicle from two years ago that was nerfed, sent to 13.3, and is unattainable unless you drop millions upon millions of SL twice a year.
If that was the case, I would have imagined other missiles being in the files and not just the PL-15 which has been updated this dev-server.
This is only the case if the developers give the PL-15 the performance you think it’ll get. There’s no way to say that’ll be the case.
First they need to buff the PL-12s. The PL-12 is supposed to slightly better than the AIM 120B/on par with the AIM 120C, but it is not. The PL-12A is supposed to be better than the PL-12 (which is supposed to be better than the AIM 120B/equal to AIM 120C). But no, instead Gaijin decided that the only good missile would be the R-77-1. “But but MICA OP!” No it’s not, it sucks at low altitude, so all you need to do is be 100m of the ground and fly in a straight line. Easily doable, it’s how I fight the Rafale in Customs. Bring them low and they cannot hurt you with MICAs.
It’s perfectly acceptable that the worst airframes in the game get the best missiles. Just give China its PL-15 tbh, then we can make the case and argue for Meteor afterwards.