Tornado ADV is under-BR’d.
SuperTEMPs were literally reserved for Tornado.
Historically the FGR.2 was refitted with 9L’s so its possible, but SuperTEMP was only made for the Tornado ADV (TEMP = Tornado Embodied Modification Package).
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I honestly hope they make a Phantom FGR.2/L or FG.1/L with 9Ls and SuperTEMPs (even if the SuperTEMP was never fitted to the Phantoms for obvious reasons) because that would be cool
Ah yes. The Tornado ADV / F.3, which you yourself have only played for a handful of matches (And done very mediocre in), is undertiered and deserves to be at the same BR as the F-14, Mirage 2000, and F-4 EJ Kai. Notwithstanding that it carries a above average set of missiles at best with a below average radar, coupled with the fact that it has one of the worst flight models in the game, combining extremely poor manueverability with slow acceleration and high speed bleed. So not only will these 12.3 planes beat the Tornado F.3 in BVR combat, they will also absolutely rinse it in a dogfight.
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“This dude did average in his stock Tornado F3.”
Yes, I did. Turns out playing stock is hard.
Mirage 2000 is under-BR’d.
F-14B is 12.7, not 12.3 as you falsely claim.
EJ Kai is a Phantom FGR2 with 9Ls.
“This dude did average in his stock Tornado F3.” If you do not know how a vehicle works spaded then who are you to judge it?
“F-14B is 12.7, not 12.3 as you falsely claim.” F-14A would like to talk to you.
“EJ Kai is a Phantom FGR2 with 9Ls.” If the FGR2 has Aim-7Fs and the F-16’s Radar yeah.
But no, let’s be reductive and conveniently gloss over certain aspects while cherrypicking others.
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Ah, I hope F-4J(UK) Phantom F.3 & F-4M Phantom FGR.2 decrease BR to 11.7 for Air RB only. and give AIM-9L
AIM-9L for F-4J(UK) and Phantom FGR.2 only but Phantom FG.1 from Royal Navy never refitted AIM-9L
Tornado F.3 (RAF) only launch Skyflash SuperTEMP
The radar is incredibly ABOVE average and is one of the best in the game…
It is not going to be downtiered AND given 9Ls…
F-14A doesn’t have 9Ls or countermeasures.
It’s inferior in weapons to the Tornado F3.
Tornado F3 also goes faster than the F-14A. Time to climb is also a few seconds faster to mach 1.4.
F-4J(UK) and F-4M Phantom FGR.2 stay 12.0 BR inAir RB) but increase to 11.7 BR for Air SB if add AIM-9L
But Phantom FG.1 never refitted AIM-9L and reversed to 11.3 BR for Air AB & Air RB
im not too sure about this one, id take 2-4x phoenixes/2-4x 7fs over 4x skyflashes any day
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“F-14A doesn’t have 9Ls or countermeasures.” First of all, yes the F-14A does have countermeasures. Secondly, what? The Tornado F.3 doesn’t have Phoenixes or Aim-7fs. Are you being intentially disingenous?
“Tornado F3 also goes faster than the F-14A. Time to climb is also a few seconds faster to mach 1.4.” The P-51D-20 is faster than the Yak-3U. I guess we should move it up to 5.7 now.
If you aren’t willing to have a genuine conversation regarding balance then why discuss on the forum?
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Trolling and being kool kid, makes you ragequit from forum of course.
He did same before about topic talking about [‘promised nerfing A-10 on air’ by stona] on eariler this month.
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Yeah you only experienced 47 battles with tornado F.3
You didn’t do average in the tornado and you are asserting tornado is under-BRed.
Very logical 👏
I agree before the fgr at 11.3 was really bad and not really enjoyable now its unplayable i have to face gripens f15 mig29 its actually insane how the f4s is at the same br has hmd and 2x times better missiles.
Eithier they should insanley buff fgr2 or move it to 11.7 or even 11.3
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It doesn’t make sense for the SAAB J35XS to be at 11.3, that’s what doesn’t make sense.
It could face MiG-29s and F-15As before the BR changes tbf (12.0 and 12.3 respectively)
Don’t forget those battles most likely were from before the recent BR changes too xD