“This dude did average in his stock Tornado F3.”
Yes, I did. Turns out playing stock is hard.
Mirage 2000 is under-BR’d.
F-14B is 12.7, not 12.3 as you falsely claim.
EJ Kai is a Phantom FGR2 with 9Ls.
“This dude did average in his stock Tornado F3.” If you do not know how a vehicle works spaded then who are you to judge it?
“F-14B is 12.7, not 12.3 as you falsely claim.” F-14A would like to talk to you.
“EJ Kai is a Phantom FGR2 with 9Ls.” If the FGR2 has Aim-7Fs and the F-16’s Radar yeah.
But no, let’s be reductive and conveniently gloss over certain aspects while cherrypicking others.
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Ah, I hope F-4J(UK) Phantom F.3 & F-4M Phantom FGR.2 decrease BR to 11.7 for Air RB only. and give AIM-9L
AIM-9L for F-4J(UK) and Phantom FGR.2 only but Phantom FG.1 from Royal Navy never refitted AIM-9L
Tornado F.3 (RAF) only launch Skyflash SuperTEMP
The radar is incredibly ABOVE average and is one of the best in the game…
It is not going to be downtiered AND given 9Ls…
F-14A doesn’t have 9Ls or countermeasures.
It’s inferior in weapons to the Tornado F3.
Tornado F3 also goes faster than the F-14A. Time to climb is also a few seconds faster to mach 1.4.
F-4J(UK) and F-4M Phantom FGR.2 stay 12.0 BR inAir RB) but increase to 11.7 BR for Air SB if add AIM-9L
But Phantom FG.1 never refitted AIM-9L and reversed to 11.3 BR for Air AB & Air RB
im not too sure about this one, id take 2-4x phoenixes/2-4x 7fs over 4x skyflashes any day
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“F-14A doesn’t have 9Ls or countermeasures.” First of all, yes the F-14A does have countermeasures. Secondly, what? The Tornado F.3 doesn’t have Phoenixes or Aim-7fs. Are you being intentially disingenous?
“Tornado F3 also goes faster than the F-14A. Time to climb is also a few seconds faster to mach 1.4.” The P-51D-20 is faster than the Yak-3U. I guess we should move it up to 5.7 now.
If you aren’t willing to have a genuine conversation regarding balance then why discuss on the forum?
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Trolling and being kool kid, makes you ragequit from forum of course.
He did same before about topic talking about [‘promised nerfing A-10 on air’ by stona] on eariler this month.
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Yeah you only experienced 47 battles with tornado F.3
You didn’t do average in the tornado and you are asserting tornado is under-BRed.
Very logical 👏
I agree before the fgr at 11.3 was really bad and not really enjoyable now its unplayable i have to face gripens f15 mig29 its actually insane how the f4s is at the same br has hmd and 2x times better missiles.
Eithier they should insanley buff fgr2 or move it to 11.7 or even 11.3
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It doesn’t make sense for the SAAB J35XS to be at 11.3, that’s what doesn’t make sense.
It could face MiG-29s and F-15As before the BR changes tbf (12.0 and 12.3 respectively)
Don’t forget those battles most likely were from before the recent BR changes too xD
@sushi_vlogz @Stockholm_Blend
Please avoid having troll [provocation] posts on the forum.
Be sincere like myself and others.
So sushi, you claim F-14A has BOL pods. Provide proof.
Tornado F3 has SuperTEMPs which are better than Phoenix, though that’s not a high bar being better than the worst ARH in the game.
The AIM-7F is slightly better at long range, however both are equal within 20km.
Yeah, back when it was a less stupid BR and could actually face F-16s more consistently.
First of all,countermeasures doesn’t mean BOL pod
You are just trying to cloud the issue because of your petty self-esteem
Second, AIM-54 can be worst (in some aspect) ARH missile in the game, but that doesn’t mean SUPERTEMP is superior than AIM-54
SARH missile can not be competitive to ARH
And you have to remember SUPERTEMP has weaker thrust compare to AIM-7F/M
And this gap becomes much bigger when both fighters trying crank maneuver
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It seems you are having bad memories so I will remind you what you posted.
You forgot about the tiny AN/ALE-39 countermeasure pod which installed between the TF30 engines of her.
but now you are talking about BOL. bah.
Skill issue. Despite that Phoenix can’t turn fast as SuperTEMP does, and Even Phoenix might be the worst ARH in this game, but at least it is ARH. right? no need to maintain locks till the missile hits is a bigger advantage than you think. Tornado has awful manoeuvrability and needs to concentrate on all costs for notching AIM-54. While Tornado trying to notch the Phoenix, you can take a better position and shoot AIM-7F as a strike-out pitch. oh, you might not know about it because you didn’t play Tornado much. init?
15km. Thanks to weaker thrust than AIM-7F/M
I flew Tornado F.3 Mostly before BR patch, nearly every American 12.0BR jets I saw at uptier match was F-14B. not the F-16A/ADF.
@이승만
I wrote that before heading off for the night.
My brain said BOL pods, my reflexes typed something else.
Tornado has the sustained turn rate to crank without losing speed, as I’ve done so countless times in my Tornado IDS.
@Stockholm_Blend
Your entire reply is null and void.
As I said countless times, I was always talking about the BOL pods.
Well, I hope your skill gets honed at some point.
Visit neurosurgery before it’s too late
Im pretty amazed how you are equating tornado ADV/IDS
Two aircraft has significantly different play style/operating altitude.
Where? You just said BOL pod first time 1 hour ago
Well he is more skilled than you. Please don’t show us your petty pride