Should Hawk 200 RDA be put back to 11.0 in air RB?
Reason: it is subsonic compared to the 11.3 JA37C which also has skyflash DF and has a gun, which the hawk 200 doesnt have. the JA37C is a supersonic with 1300kph on the deck capability while the hawk 200 maxes out at 1030 at 6 meters altitude
Why not list why it should go down, also petition font mean anything realistically
Do something like this. Helps to rationalize why it should go down
The problem are the skyflashes +PD radar
All that plus the 9L make it a huge leap compared to other subsonic 10.7 and 11.0
The A7K with 2 9L’s is 11.3 lol
Naaaahh…
I don’t think a plane armed with Skyflash with PD and 9L needs to get down to 11.0.
I mean, JA37C also has skyflash with PD and being supersonic, and in 11.3BR
But she doesn’t have 9L.
Hawk 200 RDA on 11.0?
being the same BR with my SHAR FRS.1?
No thanks, mate.
imo, keep it at 11.3 BUT give it its gun pod
should be 1 30mm aden in the middle
yes i need gun
would rather just get some kind of a gun
Glock.
better than nothing, i guess…
why dont the hawk pilots just
Hit 20💡
All Hawks use the same gunpod to my knowledge
Which is weird as to why the 200 didn’t get it in game
you clearly havent used this platform, because if you had you would know that at a launch speed of 600-800kmh like the Hawk 200 usually cruises at, makes the Skyflash a very easy missile to avoid by just pulling a little, in my experience this has happened half the time when firing it.
the SHAR frs1 is faster and has guns, meaning that if the missiles fail you have a backup, the hawk 200 cruising at 600-800kmh the majority of the time, does not have the ideal speed to fire sky flash missiles, this results in them being avoidable by just manoeuvring, not just by flying low, and as for the aim9Ls they can just be flared, since the majority of aircraft at even 10.0 have flares to counter them, and again no backup with guns if that happens.
Gaijin’s argument for this is that the aircraft we have are prototypes, meaning the underneath is slightly differently laid out, this means the gun pod “cant be fitted” I can sort of see where they are coming from, as from observation I can see the hawk 200s we have in game are slightly different looking to production ones, but I seriously do hope someone finds definitive proof that it could carry it, for now I guess we just have to suffer.
Edit: typo correction
I do wonder if it would be OTT to have a slightly lower GRB BR, make them distinctly GRB suitable maybe. Sure, improved radar, but you got the phantoms at 10.7 in GRB with 4 skyflash missiles.
Air RB it will be hard to balance fairly, GRB? Might just be a decent role for it.
I don’t see a reason why the Hawk 200 can’t carry the gunpod that was designed for the hawks…
Although, perhaps that is for the best, lest the rda get the other things that it could be used with and get put at 13.0 or something…
(asraam)
Guns equipped in a brick harrier platform?
To use against supersonic fighters?
Nah, you shouldn’t call it a backup.
Of course, having a gun is better than not having one. However, in most cases, FRS.1’s gun is primarily effective at fragging ground targets.
Maybe, still, it doesn’t justify why Skyflash, paired with PDN radar, needs to be in 11.0BR.
Hyperbolically, in that term, F/A-18A, which can barely fly supersonic, should get down further to 12.0 because F-4 could fly faster in high alt. (/s)
Yes.
Blatant lie.
10 of 13 10.0BR jets don’t even have flares to counter them.
-F-4C
-F-105D
-F-1
-F-8E(FN)
-Mirage IIIC
-Mirage IIICJ (Israel)
-Mirage 5F
-Nesher
-Su-17M2
-J35D
And only 3 of 13 jets are equipped with flares.
-Hunter F.58
-Q-5A
-Q-5L
So, no thanks. I don’t want the Hawk 200 RDA to drop down to 11.0.
I hope F/A-18A is being 12.7(by decompression) instead.
i dont know about the hawk family…feel a little confused…
so irl is there 3 different hawks and there’s two of them being added into the game this version? and the third type is a cannoned RDA?
or… in fact RDA the prototype itself should have a cannon and production is just the same?