The American F-16C has no PIDS. That means no maw and less countermeasures.
The American Hornet has no BOL pods. That means less countermeasures
The American Eagles have no BOL pods. Every vairant of the eagle in the U.S tech tree can equip BOL pods.
There are bug reports on every single one of these, yet none are getting fixed.
- Add BOL pods for all of these
- Add them just for the F-15s
- Add them just for the F-16
- Add them just for the F/A-18
- Add for none (as is now)
BOL for the F/A-18A/C
PIDS bug report
F-15A BOL pods
Casually just getting ignored
F-15C MSIP II BOL pods
F-15E BOL pods
PIDS for the F-16C
!This is a discussion for American aircraft only. Please don’t bring other jets like the Rafale or Eurofighter into this 'cause i have no data on them!
Act accordingly even if you disagree
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ah yes the msip II bug got “accepted” a year ago, probably never coming we know gajinn and aparently the 16 and 15C are the jet they love to not give the tech they had irl for some reasons, much like the EF2000 and gripens tbh
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All jets have these kind of problems, but as I’ve said above, this is an American aircraft thread only.
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i agree, american jets have been kinda purposfully ignored in BOL pods apparently, theres literraly a bug report saying “Those pictures show F-15 A/C” on a F-15E report, so gajinn CAN see the F-15C with them and just decides not to
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Read the F-15E bug report. I’ve sat quite a bit in order to connect the dots :)
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But the American F-16C has an HMS with radar, and a better engine than other F-16s with AIM-120 do.
Thanks to being a later variant.
By the way, only F-16s with PIDS are Belgian ones in French TT, so American F-16C has superiority over other F-16Cs which also don’t have PIDS.
Finnish Hornet(Old) has no HMS, no ground ordnances, and will going to have no AIM-120C
Well, maybe it is fine to have BOL on F/A-18C Late as long as newer Finnish Hornet MLU2(new) will going to have these, though.
However, I disagree with adding BOL on F/A-18A and F/A-18C (Early) :|
Maybe it is because of balancing reason. Eagles are already having 240cm without BOL.
if F-15A gets BOL as extra, planes in nearby BR with standard 60cm will be doomed for sure. :(
feels quite lame though.
Maybe F-15C/E will going to access to BOL when new IIR missiles come out?
(not ground used version which comes out in this update, but air-to-air version one.)
I agree about that bug reports are getting ignored by devs purposely is sad and disappointing.
I understand your meaning and feeling but ehhhh…
Isn’t it quite too early to give BOL to ‘all of them’?
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just get the fact that gaijing is russian company, US ain’t getting nothing son
There isn’t even really a model change either correct? Like it’s just adding a mode copy and paste into the modifications screen? Such a simple change.
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Purely for balance reasons, I can’t support the Hornet getting them. Thats over 1000 CMs which would taken minutes to even get halfway through on the fastest periodic setting. I think the Hornet has more integral problems that BOL won’t solve with it. I do support the F-15/F-16s getting them though. Especially the F-16C getting MAWS. Even though (IMO) the F-16C in the pinnacle of balance in this meta, it just needs a little boost to stay with the times.
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Doesn’t matter to Gaijin. The F-14A IRIAF is missing 6 ARH missiles when all the other F-14s have them and we have video proof but they won’t add them.
I see what you did there. You used my own logic against me, the eurofighter being the only jet at top tier that has around 400 countermeasures. Although I do believe that the extra countermeasures do make up for the more or less poor radars and poor dogfight performance (just the F-15s here)
We should be getting some more things in the game for jets that used them. The bol pods, for example. They wouldn’t be game breaking, and it’s not like every other jet has 1000 cm and MAW to auto launch them when needed. We all know that people don’t tend to look around every 5 seconds
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Just wanted the chime in here.
We need decompression, but the F-15A needs to go up. The only reason it (rightfully) hasn’t gone up yet it because Gaijin decided to put ARH slingers at the same BR, which put slightly better ARH slingers above them. When we get proper decompression, 13.0s shouldn’t be fighting current 12.0s.
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i want to share my opinion, i just played the gripen effectivly in top tier, which can use bol pods.
from what i see, mostly cm pods are given to planes without any maw system, because it gives them the possibility to dispence cm, while the pilot is knocked or near the g limit.
maw systems are extremly helpfull, especially since some maw systems are warning from ir missles too.
when i reflect my battles, the only thing the big amount of cm leads to is, that i spam 20-30 chaff, while trying to notch a AHR.
flares i do use probably more than with less than 100cm, but most battles i use less than 60 flares
considering all my point i think, if a plane has more than 100 charges (not units, because some planes drop 2 or more cm per activation) and no maw, the addition of a cm pod/rail feels valid.
aircraft with maw and less than 50 charges, it could be valid, depending on the amount stored in pod.
aircraft with maw and more than 100 charges should not recieve cm pods.
that is my personal opinion, i am open for discussion.
(personal note: more than 300 charges i consider to not be running out in a usual battle)
I agree, it’s the same argument that can be made for a lot of vehicles, but unfortunately when an update is done, these things get thrown to the wayside, and then you don’t see a fix for at least a year or two, kind of like the slat armor modification on the m1128 Stryker, simple model change, took forever.
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may i be stupid, but i see no missles at the F14a which the f14a iriaf does not thave
No american fighter jet has MAW. The A-10 and F-111 are no jet fighters
Reverting the nerf made to the BOL countermeasures is more important for further addition of this feature to more airplanes.
from what i experience the bol pods do not need to be “rebuffed”
For planes that current has BOL like the JAS-39C and is clearly lower in the Meta, maybe it’s a good thing to do.
Well the F-14A IRIAF doesn’t have the Aim-7F or Aim-9H. But it mainly lacks the 6x Aim-54 loadout that the F-14A has for no reason at all.
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