I’m going to entertain this.
US testing of 90mm T15E1 rounds
The Tiger II’s UFP is 150mm sloped at 40 degrees, giving a relative thickness of 233mm.
The T50 APCBC shell can only penetrate 7.6 inches of armour (193mm) at 30 degrees (i.e. worse than the Tiger II’s UFP) at less than 50 metres. There is no way it is then able to penetrate the Tiger II’s UFP, even at point blank. And the Super Pershing in game doesn’t even have T50, it has the worse T43.
Isnt this an issue with eastern front, that any german casemate TD with fighting compartment at the back of the chasis that was taken out was called ferdinand/elephant?
Well that was one huge troll post.
If only people were open to reality:
-Reason why we have use of formulas in game (yes, not accurate but better than what we had due to no universal “testing” or “verification”.
-Reason why we moved on from the old way of “historical” (see above).
“Historical” aspects are not all present since this is a game.
Vehicles being “knocked out” in the real world would stop this being an enjoyable game since any pen would mean a bailed tank, any damage such barrels, tracks, crew, engine, transmission, etc, would not be repaired in 10 seconds on the field (dead tank).
This game exists due to the easy access via controls and forgiving mechanics. And of course aircraft first then ground/naval tacked on. This is a niche game and making it more niche makes zero sense.
Historical accuracy is not popular and would make for a much more sparse population.
Arcade props up this game for the more “serious” to play their modes but they fail to appreciate this reality. I always knew my main mode was just the most noisey but least populated.
Terrible troll topic, however. And used as an excuse for OP to try to beliittle others (and failed).
Yeah it all gets pretty messy in the heat of battle and most tank commanders kinda just made assumptions off of shapes
Leopard 2A6’s lower hull armor is a 35mm thick plate.
Why would a 37mm gun with 80+mm of pen not be able to penetrate it?
The only Sherman variant with such functional armor is the Jumbo. Yeah, the heavy assault modification with 4,000 kg of additional armor. When it comes to hull, 101mm angled 48º. That’s the equivalent of 151mm of thickness. Panther and Tiger II’s gun can penetrate it. Tiger I and Panzer IVs can’t, for good reason- it was made for that.
Jumbo variant is understandable. But other variants makes no sense since they have paper armor when fired at by a gemran 88 gun
lil bro can’t handle the reality that first hand accounts prove otherwise. And its not about belittling anyone. Its proving a fact that delusional people can’t accept because they believe in a video game.
When the first hand accounts call the Sherman a death trap despite it having relatively high crew survival rates
First hand accounts are not unerring.
The anecdote you keep referring as a Super-Pershing killing a Tiger II from the hull has been debunked.
There’s no way on this planet Super Pershing could penetrate Tiger II’s hull without violating the laws of physics. Above, ChieftainWarrior showcased the official US testing values of the 90mm T15E1 rounds and the results prove that it’s not possible. The tank didn’t weigh 70 tons for nothing.
Just an additional bit of logic; according to the first hand account, “they penetrated the lower plate and caused the ammunition to explode”… except there is no ammunition stored on the lower hull of the Tiger II tank. The ammunition stored on the hull is found on the sponsons at the upper section:
There’s documented proof that this engagement simply didn’t happen (i.e.: no Tiger IIs were in the area).
Beyond that, everything you’ve stated is frankly useless. It’s not just about if something is wrong or isn’t, it is extremely important to show actual numbers. Which is something that other people here have provided while you have not.
Lil bro just completely throughs hard evidence out the window. Almost half the crew always died when sherman go hit. What are you on about.
Edit: you mean throws, not throughs. Also gj ignoring the other people who replied to you with even more evidence that you’re wrong, instead diving on what you think is an easy W.
Guessing you didn’t see me ask originally but can you tell us which episodes of the documentary series you’re referencing (assuming it’s a series), as well as relevant timestamps, and maybe even throw in a couple quotes as well?
Already answered this in previous replies.
Greatest Tank Battles has 26 episodes, which episodes are you referencing? roughly how far into the episode are the things you’re trying to quote?
Damn, can I get my 2 minutes back please? It’s literally a “I’ve heard this/I saw this in a documentary/I think it should be like that.” statement.
Gaijin is known to change things (mostly, not all, sometimes they are just stubborn) if you bring them enough evidence/documents to back up your claims.
Just leave it.
Absolutely delusional
But you are the one throwing all evidence out the window, and not even addressing it on the first place… why haven’t you replied to me yet?
The one “first hand account” you keep using like undeniable evidence has been debunked through historical facts, physics, and logic.
I provided you with first-hand accounts. Once again as previously state I will not provide evidence from google that is horribly inaccurate and has been watered down in for the past 75 years since the war ended. If you can’t handle the fact that these are first-hand accounts, then you can go cry about it.
