Panavia Tornado (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

I’ve heard about the dechirped AIM-9L’S but I don’t understand what it means. How did it affect the missiles? Was it the seeker or the pull ability?

https://old-forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/555284-british-weapon-system-discussion-from-1945-present-sources-photos-performance-etc/&do=findComment&comment=9601946
Thats flames explanation

Non of that, the chirp is the tone the pilot hears before launch, a solid chirp is when the missile has a lock, the seeker is uncaged and can be fired.

The threshold for that solid chirp is pretty high for what the seeker can actually detect. This was removed from the rail in British use, which lead to a few things happening.

  1. Detection of targets at much greater ranges
  2. Detection of much lower emissions (including idle engines)
  3. No sound feedback on lock to the pilot
  4. The need to use the SEAM HUD symbology to see if the seeker was actually locked to a target.

As such the you ended up with some fairly different performance.
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Well, dechirping on f3 when?

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Probably never, as it wouldn’t benefit one of the major nations.

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Can we stay on topic please.

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I asked a question on the WT Reddit about the 1000lb N.1 and most of the comments were just people saying that it was a bomb. https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/17j1qnf/does_anybody_know_what_this_is/
Then I asked that same question here and got actual answers from actual human beings.
British 1000lb mk 83 bomb
In fairness I would definitely not like to get banned from here so I’ll just keep my stuff to a minimum.

sir could you ask them to lower the f4j uk to 11.0? it’s worse than the US f4s in every aspect

I saw that coming due to your post

@Gunjob Tornado F3 CSP more from Tornado F3 ? and Tornado F3 CSP could be 12.3 min BR or 12.7 max BR ?

I guess Tornado F3 CSP located after Tornado F3 but would add to rank VIII or rank IX

It’ll probably be more effective if one of you guys initiate a report, English isn’t my first language so I doubt I’ll be able to convince them

plus I mostly play ground rb so this isn’t my field of expertise

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO CSP NOOO
AOP or FSP

Also: TOLD IT

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Let me tell you that when it comes to BR changes, most of the time we have 0 saying. At least with words. Br is based on statistics, no one knows them expect gaijin, but they exist. So unless those players who play F4 junk (an those who play it are either grinders or those who like it and do good in it) reform universaly badly, it will not be changed

Honestly I don’t think a lot of players bought this plane despite the discount, out of all the games I played today I’d say that 80 percent of the premiums are the Mirage f1c. I’ve seen the Saab J35 like 3 times out of 50 games so maybe it’s even worse

I have no idea, but still nothing we can do. You can hope it gets into next proposed br changes, or when next one hits you can suggest it in the comments

the disparity between this and f4s is just too great, and realistically speaking that thing ain’t going up to 11.7 so it makes more sense to lower the BR of f4j

“dechirped” / overlocked / non-standard Sidewinder modifications are currently not planned or under consideration to be implemented by the developers.

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Aw man, kinda sad but understandable, as not many of them happened

Well the Trial COWL report states:

And the Sea Harrier FA.2 flight manual shows it was indeed used:

So I’d argue the de-chirped AIM-9L was a standard issue UK weapon, just like any other Sidewinder version. Sadly it sounds like the devs have made their mind up.

Does is also mean that missiles like the AIM-9L Genetic A, B & C and the AIM-9Li are denied by the devs for British aircraft going forward? Because those were all widely used by RAF aircraft in preference to the AIM-9M.

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