P51D-30 needs a performance buff or lowered BR

no its just that american tactics were much less hands on to the ones that were actually there from day one.

bomber escorting isnt figher battles, which is what air RB is all about now we dont have mission scenarios

ok but your original comment was:

and it was in reply to:

so we’re still on the subject of you saying “No, USA planes didn’t teleport, they scrambled” and me saying “USA planes rarely scrambled”.

@Negativewaves - the 109 is a tough matchup for the Mustang because the speed advantage is so slight. In my experience, 109 pilots have a tendency to just doggedly follow you around. Forcing a merge is useful because they will (almost) ALWAYS flip a 180 for you - and this usually cancels out their acceleration advantage because of the speed it costs.

The Mustang has an instantaneous turn happy place between 450 and 775 kph while the 109 compresses hard above ~620 or so. Limited opportunity to convert speed into position in that window, the trick being you obviously cannot sustain those speeds (nor your pilot the G load).

Post server replays, I wanna see what’s happening

The P51s (and a lot of US prop fighters) in general don’t have bad performance just really boring performance, most of their advantageous scenarios require ages to set up properly.

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He is right on that one.

Check out my bug report related to the same issue: Community Bug Reporting System

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I’m correct.

He for some reason believes the F-4 outturns F-5s and Mig-21s

That’s not what he said. He said it has a strong FM and that’s correct.

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No, he legitimately argued with som1 who said the F-5 outturns it, more than once too.

yeah its called winning, maybe you all should try it sometime

youre speaking my language, total cultural victory lad

No, I haven’t. Stick to facts.

For some reason my old comment was deleted?

Anyways having played P-51D-30 once again after not playing it since years…
Yeah it’s not usable, it shouldn’t be 5.0 at all in current state, funny enough the F8F-1 is 4.7 while having better performance.

hell i have better experience with P-51D-5* than the P-51D-30, is just THAT BAD…

*Edit: P-51D-10 changed to P-51D-5.

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Well, it’s currently nerfed by a bug from the last patch… if that matters to you.

I am not a good player - make no mistake - and yet the P-51D-30 still performs on par with the P-51C-10 (TT and premium) and the P-51H-5 for me.

I am not really qualified to say if the P-51D-30 is good/mid, but I can confidently say that it IS at least usable.

Now, if Gaijin would revert that bug/nerf…

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That’s because the D-10 has almost as much engine power as D-30 but sits at 4.3 and not 5.0 since it’s a premium.

P51D-5 tops out at 1700hp, D-10 at 1832hp, and D-30 at 1883hp.

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Hold on my bad, it was the P-51D-5

Only took notice when you said premium lol.

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