In what universe?
Only sounds are:
- My own prop being overbearingly loud
- Wind and wing buffet when I start spinning
- Crackle of guns going off within like 300 meters.
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No…
There is the low frequency Sound of the other planes to hear, not too loud, but clear…
I thought it was just a visual bug. Do people actually use it to gain extra maneuverability?
I open it because you’re supposed to open it while landing and on take off.
Some people, usually in jets, open it for visibility.
In props, usually you can only open canopy in planes with good visibility anyway so the point is moot. Like, bf109? Cant open canopy. Razorback mustang? Nope.
Spitfire? Yep. F4U-4? Yep.
Italians have bad visibility, but that bad visibility is in front which you cant mess with anyway (if this was Il-2, you could mess with it by just leaning out and past the windscreen like this).
AFAIK, Il-2 is supposed to be a more realistic game so I should have had my head ripped off by the 300km/h+ winds in this situation.
Same for Wingaling
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I wish it would be a true but it is not… I was flying with Tiger and clearly heard Viper few hundred metes to my right few days ago…
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Even with maxed volume, by the time I can hear this P-51H he’s already filling up my entire windshield.
Meanwhile, with CLOSED COCKPIT:
I could hear this spitfire behind me for a good while, even though it is HARDER to hear planes behind than in front. I heard him so early that I was checking behind me to both sides several times and I only managed to finally see him when he got closer and we were over that lagoon.
But you know, ok maybe there’s something different with the Kikka because it’s a jet. How about some slow props?
The ONLY plane I can hear in this small compilation is the flatspinning Spitfire, which I also come incredibly close to and he is effectively stationary when I do hear him. The rest are completely inaudible.
No, wrong again. In some planes, it’s way easier to hear the planes behind you. It saved me so many times from a plane sneaking behind me and try to get an easy kill. Before they get in gun range, I heard them.
But some planes. Mostly Rus production planes you can’t hear. Like I said earlier. It’s more the sound of the opponent plane that differs in sound volume and/or the sound it generates. For example, the CL 13. You can hear it from 2 km away.
The CL-13 (there are two) have the same engine sound as every other Sabre.
With open cockpit, I have never heard anyone behind me since the change and I have flown many different planes. Again, video or didn’t happen - I provided my proof, you have not.
I’m playing at Sinai in my F5 right now. And I just noticed, I can hear the SU22 from more than 1.5 km away. But not the MIG… Both are on my team
Video or didn’t happen.
Maybe it is a time to accept there are also other type of vehicles… not just props…
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Props should be able to have cockpit open at lower speeds like under 400-500kph maybe but jets should never be able to open canopy during flight.
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They cant open at such speed. But they open them on lower speed and just overspeed cockpit, in result of what it breaks
I am saying how it SHOULD be.
Well. Your solution wont fix the problem.
I am arguing SPECIFICALLY about props, or otherwise jets in a WW2-early cold war setting.
elaborate
Maybe y’all should learn to qualify your statements then and be precise, accurate and narrow in your requests and claims to not also affect and interfere with things as collateral. The need for qualified, precise, accurate and narrow statements is why I constrain my examples to the F4U because we have tangible operating manuals to cite and refer to. I have found anecdotes further supporting the matter talking about pilots in the South-Pacific opening their canopies for better airflow (heat) or because of fear that it wouldn’t open when having to bail out which led to fuel-economy issues due to the extra drag which led to Operation Vengeance having to specifically order pilots to close their canopies due to range issues. Until now, I have not cited this anecdote as I lack direct reports or the like to cite through screenshots or quotes.
But over and over this thread has statements made about planes with canopies that open like a shell without any armoured windscreen or even a puny windshield like the I-16’s. Over and over people bring up jets with weird canopies. Over and over people bring up jet engines and use all this to justify unrealistic and SoP-defying demands on propeller aircraft.
And claims of cockpit visibility is extra funny because… most props’ worst visibility is up front from all those thick frames supporting the aforementioned armoured windshield. In Spitfires and F4U-4 alike, looking behind me and above me and 3/9 o clock has the same visibility with our without the cockpit and even in something like the Ki-61 or G.55 with green-house style framing, most of the visibility complaints are the windshield and not side/rear visibility.
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Well there was a statement by @PercussionCap that other aircraft cannot be heard regardless open/close canopy…
Which I disputed because:
- i don’t remember any patch notes indicating GJ tackled this issue
- because today I heard chopper blades (Mi-35) while blasting 0.8 in F4F on full afterburner, I heard Su-25 and missile fired on me as well
So my statement is pretty simple… in WT you can hear, what you should not be able to hear regardless of the aircraft era…
If you will accelerate fast enough - you still will be able to break cockpit