Open cockpit canopy exploit needs to be eliminated

The one with the Ryan Fireball? Yes he’s likely on landing approach, as I said:

Did you miss the I-16 part that Runa posted or are you deliberately ignoring it?

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No, my arguments are that many aircraft were designed without, or flown with their canopies open and everything was perfectly fine.

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The Heinkel 112 As didn’t have an overhead canopy at all, only a front windshield. Same with every I-16 after the removal of the canopy was adopted as a factory modification and they were flown everywhere like that.

Yet both this and the I-16 were more than capable of exceeding 500kph in dives and routinely did so. I have already posted a still from a video showing a Ki-43 actively engaging an enemy fighter, who was doing it with the canopy open, as was a tradition for japanese pilots.

Claiming that nobody did it above 300kph or in combat, while not posting ANY sources for anything is ridiculous.

Post or shut up about it.

As for your earlier claim that “you can just hear planes when using open cockpit”:

Notice how when I throttle up (as you would in ANY combat situation) I can’t hear him even though he’s right in front of me? He’s so close I can even choose where on his plane to shoot, yet I cannot hear him at all.

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Do you even watched the video you just posted? This man is fighting hard to get back to base. He even has to take his head down because the wind is fighting him…

Yes, he is still able to fly the plane… But the is not able to fight… And he is not even at a third of the speed the abusers fly in their planes in a Sim match.

Ally your arguments are arguments against the legal use of this bug in a sim match.

??? In never said that…

In reality, you might hear only your engine, since your helmet can mute everything, so if we want the game as acurate as possible, we might not hear an enemy plane aproche, its guns, and only hear radio and engine. That sayed if not add mechanic of killing the pilot by fast prasure changes or by wind going MACH 1, just mute everything, make it as real as ppssible.

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But also make the pilot’s vision blurry… So no visibility advantage. So he also has a hard time to find back to his airfield.

I wonder how many planes we see flying with open canopy in the event that is going on this weekend :D

Would be nice to show the world how ridicules this game is at it´s current state ;)

This is a test pilot, a Soviet hero, flying at a speed of 900 km/h…and greets with his hand)))

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Oh really? Then what are these?

Spoiler: it’s you saying that you can just hear planes with canopy open, even though it is the opposite.

This is already the case.

Completely fictional and delusional.

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Pilots wear goggles.

Also.

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When flying the I-16, you get different audio levels when you lean your head out of the windshield vs stay behind it.

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Yes, 900 km/h as it happened… Not in your footage. He had to slow down immediately to survive this.

But I´m sure he was fighting 3 western jets with his broken canopy. At least, that’s what you are trying to tell us…
Still no fight at Mach 1 + with no canopy? Hmmmm. I still wonder why.

But, yes… this man is a hero. And he did a hell of a job, saving his plane.

Yes… I never said, you have to fly with open canopy to hear other planes. When did i say that?

The thing is, you shouldn’t be able to hear the other planes while flying faster than 300 km/h.

Pilots in WWII opened their canopy to hear the bombers in cloudy conditions… But they had to fly very slow to be able to hear them…

Hello! The video shows a test flight on an airplane without a canopy at a speed of over 900 km/h!

Сan you prove this statement?

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Please become familiar with this instrument. It displays speed in 10 km/h. So, when it reads 10 it means 10x10km/h or 100 km/h.

In this example, it’s reading ~430 km/h.

Please keep an eye on it in the following video, and take note of the pilot’s head’s position relative against the windshield and how it affects wind sounds.

Now, let’s compare these sounds to that which I have in Warthunder:

Fwiw, engines in WT are quiet even with closed cockpits.

Bf109 in Il2 is far more deafeningly loud even before I open my canopy:

(the brown smudge at the end is oil spraying into my pilot’s face who is wearing goggles)

compare with:

I have pousted a long talk about things that happenwhen flying with opend cockpit in a plane not made to fly with oped cockpits. The conclusion shows that plane doesnt even need to fly fast and the effects shows on the behaver of the plane. Here I am responding on my work so read it, in the end there are all the possible effects that might be used in warthunde

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I can´t see, he’s flying 900 km/h… It also could be 500 km/h.

And he once lifts his head to take a look above his control panel. He was just able to go back down. So a fight under these conditions, where you can’t even look at your HUD? Yeah, sure :D

Right in the quotes above. After all, if you thought planes could be heard with the canopy closed, what’s the point of this thread?

I already proved with gameplay footage that you cannot hear planes with the canopy open until you are pretty much about to ram them.

Are you gonna provide a source or not?

You posted AI slop and irrelevant information.

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I still read this topic from time to time, with incredulous bemusement.

The examples of people flying with open cockpit either by intent, design or by accident are intersting of course, but quite beside the point, the point being that no (fighter jet) pilot would ever even consider actually opening the canopy in flight intentionally.

Hmmm. Not my words… It nails it ;)

Notice the “fighter jet.”

Notice that you are making sweeping statements that make no sense when one remembers WW2 propeller-driven aircraft exist.

I don’t open mine when in combat flight. In fact, most planes I fly can’t even open it annoyingly enough. However, I open them as I approach my runway and enter landing pattern where possible as is instructed in the Spitfire manual and as is advised for a number of other planes as well.

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The original P-51D Mustang flight manual, AN 01-60JE-1, states that the maximum recommended flight speed with the canopy open is 130 knots (approx. 240 km/h). Exceeding this speed can result in damage to the canopy or its detachment.

Again… not my words… The words of the original flight manual… 240 km/h…

no

but you dont land at MACH 1 you land below 200km/h

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