Anyone else having trouble notching Micas and R77-1, multiple times now have I notched perfectly and been hit and even tried multipathing them and still end up getting killed, and yes I know angle gating is a thing but its almost impossible for me to do anything.
I find the Mica quite hard to notch, yet people say it’s the worst top-tier missile.
R-77-1 ez notch, MICA not so much
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MICA is easily one of the best for close combat like <10km
The 7deg on mica is band width instead of FOV
Which means less chaff is illuminated, so less chaff signal at a time, so less prone to notch
And fun fact, many SARHs have ~3deg for this value.
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R-77-1 can be tricky because they are quite fast at short ranges and way harder than most to kinematically at said short ranges. So you have little time to react.
MICA is similar but with the only half decent seeker currently modeled and they are way harder to defeat than any other ARH missiles
And there is a year+ old report to reduce AMRAAMs
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- Don’t multipath. It’s the dumbest thing u can try to do at toptier EXCEPT u’re stock grinding and are super forced to fly low since u don’t have chaff/missiles.
- Yeah, R-77-1 and MICA-EM are extremely hard to notch due to one of them having a massive seekerhead that can track u at absurd angles and the other one having the smallest seekerhead ingame, making them some of the hardest missiles to fool.
- Maybe u’re notching wrong? Remember to change altitude so the IOG doesn’t eat u alive and drop more chaff while using planes with normal CM (less chaff with larger CM).
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it easier to notch it at 10km or more. it literally impossible for me to notch it at 2km
anyone who says that doesnt know what they are talking about and just wants their op missile to be buffed
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I’d argue don’t do it no matter the BR tbh, staying high gives you an immense advantage, multipathing players have a hard time looking up, I would know since I fly the F1C a lot these days and it can’t play high at all so I’m often struggling to look above without crashing into trees
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If u don’t have chaff unlocked, going high is su*cidal, if they get a lock on u, start praying it’s a F-14A cuz if it’s not then u’re cooked.
Btw don’t play F1C, it sucks, F1CT is way better and u aren’t going to use ur cannon that much to actually be a disadvantage only having 1 cannon in the CT.
Mica, yes, R-77, no. Make sure your plane is actually perpendicular to the missile on all 3 dimensions of travel. If you only focus on the X/Y axis and not the Z axis it won’t notch properly.
Also try turning away from the missile a good bit if it doesn’t break off immediately, that’s usually helps a ton. Not to mention cranking helps a lot.
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i’m actually having a decent time, I’m hovering around 2,5 kd and it’s a very effective grinder, I could do a lot better If I applied myself but I’m using it like a workhorse, don’t give a damn about my stats on it. However it’s really bad in boxed in scenarios, I agree, and it has virtually zero abilities to shake off someone off, if an f18 or a mig23 locks in on your tail and no ones around to help you’re done.
yeah but F1CT is literally the same with 1 missile less (whatever it was useless most of the time) and way better RWR.
isn’t cranking the name for launching a missile and keep the lock while u notch a different missile?
dude. I don’t have the F1CT? The whole reason people like me buy the F1C is because we don’t have the high tier jets yet? And I’m sorry but I would rather eat nails than suffer through and F1’s stock grind, not to mention that I play the plane fine with it’s garbage RWR, ngl but very few missiles at the BR you’re at need a good RWR to dodge, usually you can just spot them and react appropriately.
Not that I know of
bro, the F1CT has Magic 2 in stock grind while in the F1C u need to grind them…
also no, u NEED a good RWR cuz at 12.0 there’s PLENTY of missiles that can annihilate u (AIM-7F, R-24R from 11.7…cmon, u can literally face AMRAAMs in the Mirage cuz F-4F ICE sits at 13.0) and u actually need a good RWR to dodge them, and F1C can literally just detect where the signal is coming from and just in 1 out of 4 directions, while F1CT has a WAY better RWR with better range, more warnings (especifically “missile” warnings) and more directions(?).
saying “u don’t need a good RWR” at 12.0 where u LITERALLY CAN FACE R-27ER is like saying u don’t need IR missiles at 9.3 where u literally can face AIM-9L.
Awesome, still won’t touch it, I already have an F1 and I do very well in it now that i’ve learned the ins and outs of its FM and how to play it in ARB. And you’re still ignoring the reason people buy the F1C is because they dont have access to the french air tree in the first place, wall-argument.png
The R24R is the only real threat you can face as the F1C, yeah the phoenix can kill you I guess but in close to 220 games in the F1C i died maybe 5 times to one because I was tabbed out. 7F is a joke and trivial to notch just like the phoenix is unless you’re slow as balls and caught in the air in which case anything can kill you and you should never go slow in the F1C in the first place.
Literally didn’t see a single one in 211 games because it’s a massive piece of shit and virtually no one flies it, if you really wanted to pick an ARH carrier you shouldve picked the kfir C10, killed plenty of F1s in mine.
And it’s adequate for me and many other good players to make an educated guess as to where the baddies are and what we should be doing moment to moment. Also i see you throw the r27er around like it’s a boogeyman but frankly in hundreds of games i maybe died to it a dozen times, the biggest threats to the F1C (and F1’s in general) arent radar missiles; it’s getting boxed in by much better airframes that will slowly chip away your energy and force you slow and high power irccm missiles like the 9m/aam3, hell even a well timed r60m can end your match and punch through your flares, you’ve got a bigass engine that runs quite hot.
Anyway this argument has run its course, and not to be rude but you havent flown a single F1, at all, not the premium, nor the tech tree variant, so I don’t get why you’re barking at me about the F1CT’s rwr vs the F1C when you never got to experience the difference for yourself…?