And what if others don’t care you want them to keep trying because game allows them to?
If you want dedication you can find it in squadron battles or tournaments. Expecting it in casual random battles only gives you frustration as others obviously don’t care that much about winning as you do.
And thats where you are wrong. As someone said above I play for fun and I simply don’t care about ODLs. Even if whole team leaves I wouldn’t care. I would do as much as I can.
Obviously thats problem for you but not for others nor Gaijin.
As said above random games are for casual gaming and expecting too much only brings frustration.
Well, you might be wrong because there are also people not moaning about it all the time.
These actions are not exploits as game gives players freedom to make whatever lineup they want. Only exploit is usage of reserve vehicles to avoid crew lock. All other lineups are perfectly legit by all game standards.
You are confusing critical thinking with “I want for others to play as I want” thinking.
Also if you have solution (harsher punishment wont happen, forced lineup wont happen either) please share it.
again, as stated in the original post, the times were made up and don’t reflect the actual times in game that would be used, they were just chosen to make it easier to visualize the point i was making, of someone who comes in, dies fast and does next to nothing for the team, and exits the match.
So maybe we should set the BAR at a certain win rate, say 50%. If a player can’t keep a 50% win rate they can’t spawn in at that BR and can only play lower BR’s until they “Get GOOD”?
If a player only comes online a couple of hours a week, he gets an “Auto” decrease in his BR rating and must re-qualify? We could vote for players like yourself who would monitor player actions and if they are not up to your standard of play, they get a BR reduction until you’re satisfied they meet your standard of commitment to the game?
Or, maybe you should just wake up and see WT is a GAME. Yes, that’s right a game. If you are not satisfied with the level of play, maybe you should just stop playing with these substandard low life players and move on? ODL is as much a part of the game as C&F or suicide bombing.
Its terrible player decisions by your standards. I simply don’t care how other players play this game because players are obviously playing game without breaking any rules or using exploits.
Nah, there really is just a point where you have to be prompted that you need to fight your way out of that wet paper bag as it’s not just you, but your team…
And even though you’ve written off your chances, and judged that your team, or the scenario isn’t going to play out, you don’t know what the outcome is…
And from there, you saying that you do, only self confirms it…
And to which I’d rather not have you, as a person bailing out of matches on the regular for WHATEVER reason you THINK you have, to avoid the matches you CHOOSE not to play.
When I have a stupid Event/BP task and a Tiger II 10.5cm kills me, I do not bother with that match.
I just did a match on the 38th parallel map, was spawn killed within the first 15 second of the game. Had barely left spawn. If I wasn’t playing with a friend, i would have quit that match.
You’re actually being absolutely absurd, and arguing in bad faith. That’s the only actual thing that can make your statement make sense…
OF Course it doesn’t matter what team it is, but me merely making the point that it’s ruining teams, isn’t me complaining…
After all, the evidence I refer to is someone else in this thread.
You’re almost trying too hard to make it personal. Your argument is genuinely that legless.
(Flaggers NEED banning…)
So we can do the match making ourselves now? Oh wait the game matches us with a team and I will say 12 out of 14 matches I played yesterday the team I was on was the team that 3/4 left before 4 minutes in so yeah ok its a skill issue still.
You are the one saying that everyone should get better. You are the one telling people to play a casual game the way you want.
You say that ruins team, the community finds more problematic the poor map design, the helicopters, the SPAA nerfs + CAS buffs. Yet you deny the problems the community points out, you tell them to get good. If you were so good, you would make through ODL, you would be able to kill enemy ODL before they kill yours, so you get numberical advantage.
You say I say things in bad faith, that I’m trying to make it personal. You are the one who proclaimed I should get punished, to be restricted. That you didn’t wanted me in your team. And you are the one criticizing other players name, playstyle, and more.
You want one spawn quitters to stop? So do I, but I know that first we need to attack what makes them to do that.
Btw, @BOOM_PlanePlane what you are saying makes sense, but the answer of that and why I said what I said is in this comment
95% of the time you can predict who has won the match in the first 10 minutes of the match.
It’s a choice caused by the game faults. Whether that be badly designed maps, uptiers, or just getting gaijined.
I wish I could play longer matches, but gaijin makes maps that allow for easy spawn camping, the game punishes you for dying, there isn’t any point respawning if the match is already lost.
Problem is we’re ending up with 5 minutes in peopel have decided they know… That’s the issue… You can coin as short a time as you want, someone will take it upon themselves to have a bigger psychic reach.
The faults that many coin are player faults, and inabilities… They aren’t actually game faults.
From CAS, OP vehicles to absolutely anything to do with a match, if someone doens’t take note that they aren’t the big fish, they can just as easily waste thier vehicle for no gain whatsoever.
As for spawncamping, that’s a sign you’ve lost, didn’t watch the flank, joined late or didn’t have the team aware enough to stop the advance in the first place… So much reasonable reasons for saying it’s a player issue, compared to just constantly blaming the game.
@Aizuk is just a spiteful defeatist that lets the enemy know his team is spawning choppers, and quits…
So here you are denying the community problems, and telling them to get better.
You are saying lies. You are contradicting yourself. Yor are the one speaking in bad faith.
Science is statistics. In 9/10 matches I know under some circumstances the match is lost, then the match is lost. I won’t fight in poorly designed maps, i won’t fight helis, etc.
You say you don’t want me in your team. Last 5 matches I didn’t have those issues, last 5 matches I’ve ended 1-4. You wish having someone like me fighting your battles, unless of course you fly helis.
I’ve already stated my position about helis being unsporty.
These problems have been here since a lot of time, as well as ODL. People are tired of these problems, so ODL increase. You tell people to get better, but you don’t tell them they are right. You tell them they should not think the match is lost because those issues, yet you complaing because you got some ODL, as if the enemy didn’t had them so you’d couldn’t kill them to even the numbers.
You want ODL to stop? So do I. The difference between you and me is that I don’t minimize other people problems. I recoignize them, and I want them fixed.
I want people play for fun, not for obligation. This is a game, not a job.
So you say that if enemy is spawncamping, you have lost. Good, that’s what most people do, if they know enemy is spawncamping, they will not spawn anymore. Thanks for agreeing with ODL.
I didn’t say most of the junk you’ve been trying to make me say, so fact is because the entire engagement that I had with you was that you were bragging you were being an unsporting player, I have no care in how you want to justify or excuse anything at all to do with the game because your issue isn’t with the game in the slightest, it is directly with your inability and fear to handle a situation the rest of us do without issue.
You throw the match, ruin it for others, quit, and gloat about it.
I have my reasons for 0/1 spawning.
Terrible map.
Full uptiered for the 10th time in 2 hours
Team is throwing and I can tell
Game is already decided
The bugs that force me to restart my game, many appearing on 1st spawn immediately.
Last but not least...I'm playing a new premium.
People die once and quit because the ‘personal reward’ of doing so seems better than staying in the match and promoting a more competitive game. I sincerely doubt that people would do this if there were a more severe punishment, such as banning a vehicle for an entire day, for example…