this forum gave me flashbacks to this game…
I can feel the pain when fun is ruined by something you cannot do anything about it.
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It makes the game preatty boring for me.
I can do the same and even kill the guy 3 times later (as I did), but I would prefer to just have ground vs ground combat.
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Just want to say, your 1st 15 games of today were nice and gotten plenty of kills almost each game. However, you died from CAS 3 times out of 15 matches. The other 12 matches you were destroyed by tanks and some you ODL, others you did CAS/CAP after. One of them you got the nuke!
If I continued watching the remaining 8 matches, probably would add another 2 games where you died to CAS based on the amount of images you uploaded and 6 where you died by a tank.
Summary: 15 games and a nuke
3 CAS deaths
12 tank deaths
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Of course there is plenty of reasons why I ODL not to mention the fact that I’m at the moment leveling my USA crews (already 2 at 150 lvl, 3rd is now at 132), that is why I have 2 vechicles line-up.
Still it doesn’t matter as what I talk about is how dying to something I have no chance fighting against changed my perspective about actual battle. Dying to air where You have no chance to fight against it is what makes me bored about the battle.
Not to mention times where I haven’t died to CAS because some can’t just use it:
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I’ve gotten BP tasks where the goal is to get first strike so I played like a complete retard, spawned in a strike aircraft to destroy a target and head on someone, literally self sabotage but oh well
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I mean it’s fine if you ODL, you have goals and such and reasons. I ODL too when trying to spade vehicles or other things, which is what I did today for the British new Stormer AD SPAA. It’ still stock so currently still trying to spade it, but i unlocked the important mods for it at least. I’ll go back to a full 10.3 line up once im done with it.
About CAS, well, my perspective is just different to yours I guess and i don’t get bored from it at all. I find it fun and challenging and feels like an actual war zone. Matches are hella boring for me if im not seeing anything in the air, and becomes a one sided match in most cases.
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I just prefer much more a challenging ground vs ground combat instead of bombing ground units that can’t do anything about it. So even if I were using a full line-up, I would ODL after dying to air.
That is why getting killed by air just makes the game boring as there is nothing that could be done about it. When it comes to facing tanks, there is always something I could have done better (not to mention that I need a little time to do better as I just got from my 10 days vacation in South Korea).
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You two are great example of what I said. People representing two incompatible groups put into same MM because lack of choice. And both of you would benefit if there was more choices like having queue for Combined Battles and Ground Only Battles. @JuicyKuuuuki would have better experience, because his queue would have people that want combined battles so there is higher probability there would be more planes during match and @ULQ_LOVER match quality would improve because he would not have to worry about CAS probably resulting in playing with lineups(that is what I would do).
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See, nobody - Not even Gaijin - Is making ULQ and his TO homies play War Thunder. They are welcome to go elsewhere for that tank only experience they want.
Gaijin has no interest anymore in such a mode. They tried it years ago as a temporary event and it failed hard, so they abandoned the idea. It’s that simple.
If you’re going to keep playing WT and not run a proper rock-paper-scissors roster on ground combined than you as an individual are accepting the consequences of cutting yourself off at the kneecaps and you have no right nor privilege to complain. It’s that simple and it applies to everyone.
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Source or we are going to make things up like russian bias that You belive in.
Tell me more about how You can’t understand things.
Your ground stats proves everything.
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CAS is just an end to the fun really much of the time
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Perhaps if there were vehicles to fill out massive BR gaps there’d be less complaints. Britain could really use an SPAA with an around 6.7 or 7.0 performance because while I can get kills with my 5.3 Bosvark in my 7.7 lineup, its belt size, velocity and vulnerability make it a damn bloody struggle to deal with jets.
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This is the main reason why.
Please Vote for a better WT.
I just think GRB with no planes would be fun.
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I’ve said before we need more SPAA, with gaps closed, and better reward multipliers for SPAA. Been saying it for a long time.
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That is why I only take one tank lineup. Start of the match is mostly about tank vs tank combat and it is best part of match. And at BRs 9.0 to 11.7 it is almost guarantee there will be a lot of power CAS the longer match goes. So why bother taking more than one vehicle when you know mid to late game will not be fun.
Also I do not like how CAS can completely destroy balance of ground forces. First spawn CAS will kill multiple team mates and everyone will spawn SPAA to counter it and then you have team full of SPAA so your team can get easily overwhelmed because your backup will not arrive. So another reason why more spawns is not worth it thanks to CAS.
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Gaijin does that a lot; they’ll come up with something (world war mode, anyone?) where there’s a reward that can be had and the quickest way to said reward is to go full selfish rat goblin - so of course people will do that, because, well, people.
It’s like they have this disconnect where they just don’t see that when given the choice, everyone will take the quickest and easiest way into getting something. Just wait until that October event kicks off, and you’ll see ODL skyrocket because it’s often faster to just whammabam consecutive matches with a single vehicle than it is to play a full lineup.
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Lets imagine for moment that we all love CAS and we all accept that War Thunder is a combined arms game.I still think a no CAS version of GRB would be popular and fun.
That eradicates any reason for not having it in War Thunder as the next addition to the game.Much needed and much requested.
Gaijin says it listens to its customers so get on with it.
The two versions of the game run parallel so if your game has nothing more to it that using a 1BR fast vehicle to cap a zone then fly then you still can and those who want something more can get that and EVERYONE is happy and a great reduction in one spawn quitters presumably.
I also imagine a game with no CAS could and probably would evolve into some thing a little different in terms of game play tactics and vehicle selection.
It would be no more than just be a version of the game as arcade is a version of the game compared to sim ,nobody has to be offended by it’s existence ,its simply a matter of choice.
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