You two are great example of what I said. People representing two incompatible groups put into same MM because lack of choice. And both of you would benefit if there was more choices like having queue for Combined Battles and Ground Only Battles. @JuicyKuuuuki would have better experience, because his queue would have people that want combined battles so there is higher probability there would be more planes during match and @ULQ_LOVER match quality would improve because he would not have to worry about CAS probably resulting in playing with lineups(that is what I would do).
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See, nobody - Not even Gaijin - Is making ULQ and his TO homies play War Thunder. They are welcome to go elsewhere for that tank only experience they want.
Gaijin has no interest anymore in such a mode. They tried it years ago as a temporary event and it failed hard, so they abandoned the idea. It’s that simple.
If you’re going to keep playing WT and not run a proper rock-paper-scissors roster on ground combined than you as an individual are accepting the consequences of cutting yourself off at the kneecaps and you have no right nor privilege to complain. It’s that simple and it applies to everyone.
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Source or we are going to make things up like russian bias that You belive in.
Tell me more about how You can’t understand things.
Your ground stats proves everything.
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CAS is just an end to the fun really much of the time
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Perhaps if there were vehicles to fill out massive BR gaps there’d be less complaints. Britain could really use an SPAA with an around 6.7 or 7.0 performance because while I can get kills with my 5.3 Bosvark in my 7.7 lineup, its belt size, velocity and vulnerability make it a damn bloody struggle to deal with jets.
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This is the main reason why.
Please Vote for a better WT.
I just think GRB with no planes would be fun.
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I’ve said before we need more SPAA, with gaps closed, and better reward multipliers for SPAA. Been saying it for a long time.
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That is why I only take one tank lineup. Start of the match is mostly about tank vs tank combat and it is best part of match. And at BRs 9.0 to 11.7 it is almost guarantee there will be a lot of power CAS the longer match goes. So why bother taking more than one vehicle when you know mid to late game will not be fun.
Also I do not like how CAS can completely destroy balance of ground forces. First spawn CAS will kill multiple team mates and everyone will spawn SPAA to counter it and then you have team full of SPAA so your team can get easily overwhelmed because your backup will not arrive. So another reason why more spawns is not worth it thanks to CAS.
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Gaijin does that a lot; they’ll come up with something (world war mode, anyone?) where there’s a reward that can be had and the quickest way to said reward is to go full selfish rat goblin - so of course people will do that, because, well, people.
It’s like they have this disconnect where they just don’t see that when given the choice, everyone will take the quickest and easiest way into getting something. Just wait until that October event kicks off, and you’ll see ODL skyrocket because it’s often faster to just whammabam consecutive matches with a single vehicle than it is to play a full lineup.
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Lets imagine for moment that we all love CAS and we all accept that War Thunder is a combined arms game.I still think a no CAS version of GRB would be popular and fun.
That eradicates any reason for not having it in War Thunder as the next addition to the game.Much needed and much requested.
Gaijin says it listens to its customers so get on with it.
The two versions of the game run parallel so if your game has nothing more to it that using a 1BR fast vehicle to cap a zone then fly then you still can and those who want something more can get that and EVERYONE is happy and a great reduction in one spawn quitters presumably.
I also imagine a game with no CAS could and probably would evolve into some thing a little different in terms of game play tactics and vehicle selection.
It would be no more than just be a version of the game as arcade is a version of the game compared to sim ,nobody has to be offended by it’s existence ,its simply a matter of choice.
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Nuke don’t give any guarantee win anymore because if the op team manage to get plane/jet in air to shoot you nuke down.
Potentially shoot down, though. I think 75% of the time a nuke gets dropped without any issues, the remaining 25% the majority of nuke shoot-downs tends to be a teamkill, for whatever reason.
So a nuke is still quite a big I-win button, even if it may have gotten a bit more difficult to drop it.
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It’s amazing that we have so many complaints about being in a lousy team and getting no wins as as a team then somebody destroys a nuke carrier and the chance for a sure fire win that a team mate has earned.Getting a nuke is a superb personal achievement but it’s also like the individual is sharing their top spot with all of us by earning a team victory.To destroy that in a team kill is evil and Gaijin should be doing all they can to stop this.
Team kill for planes should be removed.Its kind of off topic but overall ODL is just a show of disrespect for the game overall. Gaijin need to make a more respectful game.
They foster greed and personal glory over team work.I am only selfish becuse I see the game for what it is but I am willing to go with a more team based game if Gaijin want to lead off with it.Until that happens its me me me and if ODL is part of that then so be it.
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Preaching to the choir mate :) I don’t understand people that TK their own nuke carrier - I mean, granted, if it’s an absolute lollerstomp of a match where you’ll win regardless of whether that nuke gets dropped or not, it’s less of a dick move, but still a dick move. If it happens when the nuke is the one shot at getting a team victory, then yeah, it’s absolutely infuriating. But I guess that’s also why it’s done; there’s a large percentage of the population that seems to absolutely get off on being the most annoying little goblins they can be.
Or maybe I’m just getting old and I’ve got a case of “git offa mah lawn” syndrome :(
Maybe? I mean, I ODL/2DL because in all honesty, if we’re 5 minutes in, we’re behind on tickets and caps, and half the team has already gone back to garage, the match outcome has been determined already. And while I could farm a bit more RP and SL by respawning vehicles, it stops being fun and you’re just going through the motions.
But that’s just a problem caused by a succession of silly things Gaijin has done; such as having god-awful map design to begin with, then shrinking them down even further, then making kills the next big money earner after capping, and the CAS situation. Throw all that together, stir vigorously, and there you go. The recipe for ODL.
That’s a genre-wide problem though, most PvP shooters are like that, because you are in essence playing with randoms who you may not ever see again, so why bother with teamwork? The only server I see it happen more often is the US one but that’s probably more to do with the everyone-speaka-da-eeenglish language thing.
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I agree so much I might change my name to AngryEnglishMan
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Do it! :D
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Been wanting to change my name too fr lol Though not sure what to rename it too.
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You name is good and we are just angry : )
You are more pragmatic and positive. I admire your enthusiasm.
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I agree with that because by the time must nuke spawn the op team lack any sp to spawn any jet/plane to stop it but sometimes I see the op team manage to spawn jets anyway.