No? Just take look at the nearly 200 (and still more to come) suggestions of mine. (That are only for Germany btw.)
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I would recommend you go back yourself to what you originally quoted initially and called a lie:
To which you responded:
There is no lie here. The majority of the content in game is of the WW2 era, and whilst we continue to add examples of them, the focus currently is on modern vehicles which is what the community most wants to see.
The game had a WW2 focus for many years. Now we are building more on the modern aspect, whilst still continuing to add WW2 vehciles in-between. However the game has more WW2 era content than modern currently. That is a fact.
Once again, nobody claimed the current updates are WW2 focused. It’s been explained multiple times now why that is.
That can be the only thing I assume you got confused about from my post.
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Once again it really shouldn’t. Since people have made tons upon tons of suggestions that don’t ever seem to go into consideration. Now I cannot claim I know how the inner workings of stuff work but from a surface layer. It’s pretty obvious what going on has been affecting those on a surface layer. You have a ton of players including myself who are rather irritated by the fact that Cold and Modern get a ton of vehicles but WW2 gets nothing but a slither now.
When updates should be providing Interwar/WW2 and Cold->Modern Players 50/50.
50% of the new vehicles are from those eras and vice versa. ->Something that the community should have a say in when it comes to how content is distributed. Otherwise, you get a giant boiling pot of angry, irritated, annoyed players who will purposely cause headaches by the number and disregard what is politely told to them->to stop. Angry people only form when something angers them, it is always because of that, remedying those issues gets far less.
Anyway, thank you for this rather interesting discussion. Imma just take my leave now.
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high quantity of vehicles does not equal high quality. While there is in raw numerical terms, a LOT of WW2 additions they could go with.
At the realistic level, there’s very few that are different enough to warrant adding to begin with or to focus on. Because not only do you risk bloat, or destroying tech tree progression if you pad a tree with too much pointless stuff.
But a large majority of your suggestions fall between niche or there’s already something that does the exact same thing. So you need to realize that while quantity wise there’s a lot to add, that doesn’t tell the full story.
It’s the same reason a lot of modern fans wont suggest minute differences in the same tank as new vehicles. Because it’s not a vehicle of substance. Modern Era deserves the majority of the focus now, simply because it’s the least developed part of the game and has the most unique variety of things to introduce.
Edit: As for the topic of this particular channel, since this conversation derailed so badly. The O-I is a tank that borders on non-existence due to the fact it’s completely paper. Adding this vehicle continues to encourage an already bad precedent set in the japanese tree. Japan players, I grieve for you, I understand that the tree is barren and needs help. But if Gaijin keeps caving, and keeps giving you things that are either paper or completely fake? that precedent will cause the other 9 nations players to start asking reasonable questions “when is it my turn?”
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I forgot to reply, but you did to perfection. I’m sorry, but the truth is, as you said, most people are more interested about the legendary F-15C or the venerable T-90M than they are about a 17th slightly different-looking Sd.kfz with 15mm machine guns/75mm gun.
Quite indeed. We only ask for vehicles with minute differences when there’s no alternatives, like Japan and Type 90/10.
But beyond those exceptions, we always ask for vehicles that would actually bring something new to the table, not for 17 slightly different-looking variants of vehicles we already have ingame.
For example; after Leopard 2A6, we asked for Leopard 2A7V for its extraordinary armor and electronic improvements. We didn’t ask for Leopard 2A6M, Leopard 2A6MA2, Leopard 2A6MA3 or even base Leopard 2A7; we went straight to 2A7V.
So… yeah. I am aware there are a kajillion potential slightly different Sd.kfzs with 15mm and 75mm guns left to be added, but it should be understandable that the focus is currently put on a BR range that is still new and needs more work; a BR range that is incredibly successful and profitable, at that.
I mean, yeah i can see what you mean, but there are enove and still many unique and not represented vehicles to in game.
Unique field mods as well, such as the 7,5 cm FK 231 (f) on a Bren carrier.
But also stuff like the Pz.Sfl.II 7,5 cm K. L/41
Or other fan favourites like the Sd.Kfz.231 and 233, which are a key askpect of German Armored cars.
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It is not. The whole point is that it was built, just not completed. This is what Gaijin calls “unfinished prototype” acceptable for all trees in game.
Please do not spread misinformation about it, there’s already way too much of that.
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here is the issue with the O-I. There is very very limited proof it existed to begin with, beyond that hurdle however most of the info for it would need to come from the blueprints since the thing was never finished it has no extensive performance records, just engine tests iirc (which are hard to prove). This is a vehicle that, for all intents and purposes, is completely paper.
It was designed, sketched up, maybe a hull was built (because some of the images posted online don’t even look the same as the actual schematics), but there is just no substantial information for this vehicle to be added. That is a bad precedent.
If you add the O-I as it stands rn, with the basically zero hard information that exists on the vehicle. You can by that same logic, add things like the Strv 2000. Which is something we do not want to have happen.
this extends to the O-I suggestion itself that was posted and passed to consideration. The 2 biggest sources, are Sensha (which has several sources that are hard or impossible to find or even prove), and Wikipedia… The tank probably did exist in some capacity back then, but as far as we are concerned nowadays? it’s like Atlantis.
Edit: As much as I’d love a lot of personal favorite vehicles of mine added which are in the same boat as the O-I, I know they shouldn’t be because at the end of the day a lot of the stats/specs of the vehicle would need to be gaijin guesswork, and that’s just a recipe for disaster for the game as a whole. You start doing it for one person, then everyones gonna be asking for that treatment.
Indeed however, nobody said those can’t be added, and well a majority of the WW2 additions these last few updates (as little of them as they may be) have been predominantly more niche, gimmick tanks or obscure designs OR things to help fill out lineups where they’re still in need of help.
Nobody is asking gaijin to stop adding WW2 vehicles. They’re still going to, and they still should. The main issue at hand was someone being upset that WW2 was no longer the center of attention, when by all rights it shouldn’t be anymore. WW2 encompasses the majority of the games content as is, while modern era still only makes up 2 barebones ranks (that for most nations, those 2 ranks combined have less content than their first rank alone)
So ultimately the argument was about how much focus WW2 deserves, and the harsh answer is that it’s fine getting the small amount of focus its getting because as it stands WW2 era portion of the game is in a good spot, so there’s no incentive to take away from areas of the game in need of help, to pad out an area that isn’t.
No idea what you mean, but i also dont care.
Tho i also play the game pretty much only for the WW2 Aspect, and hopefully someday in the future also WW1, they allready have a WW1 capable map, the one with the crashed blimp, there are WW1 guns scattered on it as well. (Just the train is a bit too new.)
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But there is proof. Even physical one like the track link.
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Indeed, I am dying to get my hands on a Mark V or perhaps even a K-Wagen.
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Ayo, i made a Suggestion for K-Wagen, currently pending, and next along some WW1 Ground attack planes (twin and single engine) i also wanted to suggest a Mark tank with 2 cannons and the T-Gewehr in the front.
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Also that 2 Prototypes is as far as i know incorrect, It should be 2 incomplete and a 3rd complete, tho that also didnt leave the factory and was pretty much directly scrapped again, duo to the amicetece.
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…It isn’t, and we already have plenty of information to prove it. The O-I did exist and no amount of coping by anyone will change that.
We KNOW a hull was built because they DROVE it. Pretty hard to drive something that doesn’t exist.
All the while we keep making up armor layouts and numbers for all the modern MBTs.
We have quite detailed information on the weight distribution across several components, along with thickness and weight of most of the armor pieces.
You can’t, because the Strv 2000 was a wooden mockup. The Kranvagn is a much better analogue to the O-I, as only the hull was made - that one is lucky enough to now be sitting at a museum.
The source for the majority of reliable documentation is FineMolds, which acquired them from the japanese archives, and thus now own them.
…Which is entirely irrelevant, considering additions like the Ostwind 2 or random oneoff russian prototype aircraft that could barely fly IRL, and by the virtue of crashing on the first test flight no other information is known aside from maybe a few blueprints or pictures.
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If things like the FV4005 (which only 3 were made) maus (2 made) and the obj292 (1 made) are in game then paper tanks and test tanks should be readded
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Technically a lot more, tho not constructed to 1. There were a bunch of Hulls and Turrets and internals.
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Unfortunately, this year’s “dreams come true” event, added a barely requested KV-7 instead of the O-I
… Don’t get me wrong KV-7 will deffinetly be a fun tank but it’s kinda disappointing that it came 4 the anniversary event even tho no one rlly asked for it. So us O-I requesters will either have to wait another year (or years) for it to come to the anniversary event or hope that it comes in one of regular events.
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Did developers mention what information they are lacking and would the vehicle be added if that was found?
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They didn’t. At least i think.