Off Topic Discussion

guns are standard NATO tho ?
Rafale is also the only non US plane rated for landing on US carriers.
Same for f-18 which can land on Charles de Gaulle, i’m not sure where you are trying to go here.

As for “backstabbing” welcome to the business world i guess, you get shafted on a sub deal, i shaft you on some aircraft carrier capable planes…

Harrier any one i know not really in service anymore

that’s barrel length tho, and afaik it doesn’t matter much on the ammuniton being carried (the pressure in the chamber must be compatible but that’s it)

All calibers for NATO MBTs are 120

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yes, that’s true. F-35 too i’d assume. I didn’t include them cause they are VTOL, but that is a fair point

yeah the f35b with vtol for the marines and the f35c for the navy but the British just use the f35b

not all a combatable at this time

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except for the brit’s L30A1, i think all gun can fire a standard 120 APFSDS, be it a RH L/44, L/55, or CN120/26.

But maybe i’m missing something ? not expert on this subject to be honest

our current is rifled and is two piece but with the challenger 3 it will be smoothbore and use nato standard

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But still 2stage ammo or you gonna come in the club of one stage ? :p

afaik it’s going to be rheinmetall gun, so i’d assume they’ll fire DM53/63/73 (I lost count at this point), so one stage i think

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yeah one stage but by the time its fully out it might use a newer round

Migratory flows show most who left we’re IT engineers, not military specialists, and most of them are back.

It has multiple 250km kills recorded, so I’ll just take the fact that it works and I’m not going to try to compare it to the ancient AIM54. S-400 has done an amazing job. No AD is perfect, but with how quickly it’s been adjusted, and with the datalink capabilities with the A-51, no other AD can even come close to it’s capabilities. I’m being nice.

100% agree.

105mm, not talking 120mm. Obus-G HEAT rounds too. I was also referring to French 7.5mm which was not retired from service until 1990, and is still serving in some capacities to this day.

I don’t have a dog in the fight, I was mentioning how France got screwed by the AUKUS sub deal. I could care less what Europe does.

Yeah but it’s past now, even Famas before being stopped (i’m sad) switched to 30round OTAN mag.

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properly the best bullpup military rifle

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what about L85A3?

Really loved them, completely recognizable at first glance, I’m really sad that we didn’t relaunch the prod or modernized versions (there were some, but apparently it wasn’t enough worth it to launch the big prod).

SA80 had major problems when it was first adopted and took years to fix its properly the worst but it did get better

Neither UK nor Italy committed to development of new MBTs or next generation jets with France, only Germany has done so (you cannot really disagree on ARH missile requirements… or how many VLS cells a ship has to have).

It’s not like France has never pulled out of projects with UK & Italy either, reminder that Typhoon was originally partly French, who then proceed to pull out because the other 3 nations didn’t want to make it aircraft carrier compatible, they also pulled out of the Boxer project (but fair to them, the UK did so as well later on).

Apart from that the “makes sure to keep its know-how” is pretty hypocritical tbh? Germany has given its all to the development of both MGCS & FCAS, so much so KMW was merged with Nexter, and German research on variable cycle engines (that France has no know-how on ironically) also went to Dassault, not to mention Airbus’ work on stealth was also fully transfered into FCAS. France basically wants to eat the cake and have a cake in this case. Seems like Germany recognised this, and went ahead with a secondary MBT development process spearheaded solely by KMW & Rheinmetall along with support from Spain, Italy & Sweden.

Not saying Germany hasn’t had its fair share of problems in case of international developments, but c’mon, France ain’t a saint by any means (FCAS had a 3 year long delay because Dassault was refusing to share know-how with Airbus, when they’re partners in the project, and Airbus handed over their research…).

FYI, FCAS is fully on track, and it seems like MTU AeroEngines is now in charge of developing the FCAS variable engines, because Safran was basically presenting a Rafale+ engine, which was already inferior to an MLU EJ 200 :)

when i say “you” i was talking in a general way, could’ve said “one gets shafted in a sub deal”, would’ve been the same

Population has been in a decline for decades, and without going too much into politics, let’s just say when a place is not nice to leave in, people tend to no stay.

literally every modern AD has datalink, from Patriot to Samp/T, this is quite old school stuff.

DataLink is fine and all, but it requires reliable radars. russia is being late here. They have problem getting a production-ready AESA radar for example.

We’re just going to agree to disagree here i think