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well that’s too bad
if you want to play heavy tanks don’t play italy
if you want the AH-64 don’t play germany

gaijin is finally deleting our accounts, we are being released

Uk and france dont need one either your point? china doesnt need one as well

I literally just paid like 60 for two premium packs I hope not.

Though it wouldn’t surprise me if this happened because the US main didn’t get their sale

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I always forget China due to the fact Taiwan(RoC) feels like a sub tree there already.

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yeah, my point as well , i consider it a “sub-tree” as well, i am looking forward to watching the flames burn once they add the abrams in the chinese tree


its over me too just bought the premium sherman for sweden

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This better not be a ddoser over some sales

But the only 2 nations with room for a sub-tree(less the 5 lines) are Japan and Israel.

And only Japan has options.

depends on the definition of options, japan isnt realy popular either in the east

And France.

France too, honestly. And also China i think.

gajin can add new trees in the stil of blue water and coastel fleet as example. As a very hard example, i do not say this should happen, they could add a polish tree to germany and give it a whole new page, just like with naval you could do combined line ups, this has the benefit of the polish tree getting the support of a fully developed german tree, we wouldnt get any problems trough the lack of light tanks or spaas, which is the biggest problem at top tier for japan , israel currently the lack of support vehicles.
And with the new heli research mechanic in the same way we could choose where the research points should go towards, the research of poland or the german tree

Honestly that kind of stile would be the best way moving forward in my opinion, but everyone has a different view

Copy pasted my idea for going forward i typed this to many times now

france only has the rafael, it has no extensive air development with multiple planes does it?, i didnt count the eurofighter either or the grippen

and i mentioned that few posts down as well xD u forgot britain

Sub trees as of right now are ground focused and France has 5 ground lines.

Oh it was different one you where quoting oops.

Since US got the F-111, i wish for the Mirage IV, here at right, next to a Mirage III

Without talking about previous era (cold war) jet that we still miss some variants (later Mirage IIIs or F1s), we still could have a Mirage 2000-5F MkII, and Mirage 2000-9.
We also have more advanced variants of the 2000-D.

We could also have Mirage 4000 (afaik in perhaps 2 configuration, so 2 planes perhaps, the first with up to 10x magics 2 and limited to 4 530F, the later with MICAs).

And coming to the Rafale, it’s not “one plane”. It is 3 big family/variants each one with it’s upgrades:

Rafale C, one seat, the “basic” one that should come on the line following the Mirage 2000-5F.

Rafale B, dual seat and more equiped for electronic warfare, following the Mirage 2000D line.

and Rafale M, one seat navy, on a “naval” line that i would like to be made.

All could come in 3 lines and in multiple upgrades with the time, standard F1, F2, F3, F3-R…
Starting with basic early Rafales with PESA radar and ending with latest gen with AESA, IRIS-T, Meteor etc…

Trust me, we don’t lack choice for top tier that are completly capable and meta, and this work modern air, ground, sea, sub, whatever. Funny how you say Germany capable (how are these Russian planes?) and don’t think France can totally stand it’s place.

And if you REALLY want “originality” (or stupid copy past like for every other nation), you can add Belgium F-16s, Swiss F-18s, and Algerian Mig-29. Absolutly not saying we need that, France can totally be independant and meta in modern time.

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All three Rafale airframes share the same EW suit, the Rafale B is not dedicated for that.
F.1 standard has only been used on Rafale M serially, the Rafale C with F.1 was a testbed.
France doesn’t use IRIS-T on Rafale (if at all), but MICA - F.4.2 will add MICA NG IR/EM.

I said IRIS-T, but I was talking about the sensor suite whose name I forgot (but close to IRIS-T i think)…

Anyway this don’t change the fact that we have multiples choices that can totally follow the meta.