So germany derailed yet another joint fighter jet program. How many times have they done this at this point?
Which one?
GCAP I think, or the other one
GCAP is UK, Japan and Italy. I believe they mean FCAS which is done by France and Germany
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Tbh I’m just glad GCAP seems to be going well
Seems to be, that mockup they released gave very strong Ace Combat vibes, let’s hope they can shove a railgun in there somewhere.
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Just hoping for the BML-Us from project wingman to be fitted aswell
Can we please have this in Warthunder?
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Heh got reminded of some of my older pictures from 8 years ago, can’t believe the mustang is still missing it’s wing mount torpedos when there’s clear proof right here.
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Oh so that’s it, the FCAS is completely dead yet? No big surprise tbh, this couldn’t have worked, the same way France in the eap program couldn’t have worked
DoA let’s be real. Literally no joint program with france and germany ever worked, maybe the jaguar I guess…? The fundamental issue is Germans are Atlanticists on a borderline fanatical level, something France really, really doesn’t like (got out of NATO and got their own Nuclear detterence etc etc) so it always leads to a pointless tug of war. And Germany has zero experience building indigenous modern fighters, but still wants to lead, which is comical. Anyway the same dynamics can be found within the EU which is why I personally believe it’s a worthless project on a death spiral (I also detest it’s neoliberal outlook on literally everything but that’s off topic)
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The Alphajet also worked I guess, but on something like main combat fighters France and Germany will never be able to agree on requirements and design choices. As for eu, I don’t really share your view but that’s off-topic (yeah, even here lol, I don’t make the rules sorry) so let’s stick to debating hopeless programs
Jaguar was France + UK
Tornado included Germany, but tbf that was never a good plane
At least the Eurofighter exists?
Tonka slander will not be tolerated
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just calling a spade a spade
tho on the subject of Germany; it made for a better strike aircraft than the F-104
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An A-1 would be a better strike aircraft than an F-104
Welp skyraiders served in the indochina and vietnam wars
It’s not surprising that they’re better strike aircraft, they’re from the same era and dedicated to strike unlike the f104