buddy the leopard has 23 hp/t vs the 18 of the amx, they dont have the same mobility the leopard is way more mobile, not to mention the reverse speed.
the sturer emil has arguably worse fire power due to de awfully long reload, the flak has esencially the same fire power but with a much worse mobility.
again it doesnt change much, this tank biggest threats are the he rounds, which will keep killing you even if you have more crew members
the entire lfp of those tanks is far from a few pixels… it isnt really hard to kill or disable a t72 with this gun, this sounds like an skill issue to me.
Once again you omit information and only add the information that suits you… Since you mentioned hp/t, why don’t we also talk about vehicle mass affecting mobility? If you are going to write everything down you might as well consider the vehicle in its entirety.
AMX 13 only 14.5 tonnes
Leopard 40/70 instead 35.5 tons
As you can see the Leopard is heavier the mobility of these 2 vehicles is similar…
Moreover… Just because the reverse speed is different in your opinion is it right to increase a vehicle by 1 whole BR? Despite being similar in everything except the turret which is literally weaker than the leopard???
Dude, in my opinion you hate the leopard 40/70 and like to see it nerfed to the ground…
Once again you don’t want to admit you are wrong… My reasons are clear I already wrote them above, reread them, this convesation is becoming a loop.
I will repeat it another time then pasta if the Flak is at BR 4.0 the Breda must be at BR 4.3… this fact is undeniable.
Again… Instead Yes, since you are able to survive a machine-gun fire. Keep denying evidence you’re only making yourself look bad…
Smart players only show you the turret, not the lower part of the tank, plus they move around and if you have to hit them at long distances it becomes almost impossible to hit them especially since the turret has very few pixels of weak points…
you keep having a much better engine… the mobility of the leopard is simply better, it has much better acceleration.
the breda is much better than the flak, this is a fact.
smart players shoot at the gun breach if you can only see the enemy turret… btw dont even try to teach me how to play a vehicle where i have over 3kd while you have 0.8.
The leopard chassis is much more mobile and better than the AMX-13, and top speed isn’t everything. The jumbo and the Centurions have similar top speeds, but the jumbo is way more mobile than the centurions.
So, as I said, you were wrong, since you used outdated data and not recent data. It is nice to see that there are people who criticise, but are not at all objective with the reality in front of them. Do you want to retract what you said?
And from here you can see that you did not even read what I wrote:
Also, from here you can see that you didn’t even read what I wrote, I never said that they must have the same BR, but they are very similar vehicles… If Flak stands at BR 4.0 then Breda must stand at BR 4.3 and an undeniable fact… But since you insist that the Breda must stand at BR 5.0, then it is obvious that you are also fine with the Flak standing at BR 4.7.
As I have already said the convesation is becoming a loop, re-read what I have already written, unlike you I am not going to rewrite the same argument a hundred times, as to why you are in the wrong.
The thing is that you dont seem to understand how important mobility is in this game, just by itself you can justfify the 1.0 br gap, but seen that you have only ever played italy it is not a surprise that you completely overlook that, a 0.3 br difference between the flak and the breda is ridicously low.
Kv1 might not be but the rest of the soviet heavy tanks are, not to mention that they gave sweden a mass produced vehicle as a premium thats not even present in the ussr tree
The only ones who think so are those who play with different nations and have not yet understood how to play this game, just press space bar to destroy the Breda… Anyone with a machine gun can easily destroy the Breda at any distance.
The Breda at BR 4.3 was a glass cannon… now at BR 5.0 it is just glass… Sorry you don’t realise that… And yes since the developers care about historical facts they should add all 8 crew, but it seems they only use this excuse when it suits them to upgrade Russia… Until, they add whole crew in my opinion it’s just a fantasy vehicle, like Ariete they haven’t fixed her armour yet because the developers are too lazy..
It is undeniable that the developers’ treatment of Italy sucks.
You criticise players with dated data, making it sound recent. As I said a few posts ago, if you are going to criticise a person you should be coherent… which you are not.
You haven’t even admitted that you are simply wrong, and this conversation has gone on too long, any person with a brain at this point will have realised that you are just a troll.
