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…Or that they picked up a bunch of free kills because they have nuts missiles compared to everything else. AIM-9Ls against flareless aircraft is a serious problem, and IRCCM powercreep finding its way as low as 11.3 must be stopped. Great changes, much appreciated that they go up.
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M1 Abrams needs better round or it should go back to its previous BR
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they can go up in BR. if they get forward Air spawns so they have a chance to get some points before getting dog piled.
In fairness. Su-25BM and Jaguar IS are both still 11.3. I think A-10C matching the BR of the Su-25T/Su-39 is correct though. But forward spawn would help them quite a bit
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And what is that removing that DM53 from Leopard PL , and still tiering it up to 11.7.
But yet, clickbait and hc are getting better dart…
I’m not opposed to this, as long as it moves up.
I think Su-25BM is fine at 11.3, but the Jaguar i’m not sure on. It should probably go 11.7 since the Magic 2 are better than R-73 and it’s supersonic.
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I dont see BMP-3 on their list, its the same as BMD-4 but IIRC 3t heavier, which does not justify the BR difference.
A-10C in sim should go to like 12.3 or even 12.7, with HMD IFF and smokeless IR missile it can ambush anyone and send invisible missile to not aware enemy.
And since difference between F-1 and T-2 will be .3 BR imo T-2 should get CCIP for bombs, rockets and guns, because F-1 has it but it has 4x aim-9p where T-2 has only 2
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That, is just stupid.
Harrier Gr7 which outperforms the A-10C in every respect in Sim, except for the IFF, is 12.7 and is literally unplayable. Should be 12.0
12.0 is the absolute max it should be, if that.
If you are somehow being ambushed by the slowest aircraft at that BR, without seeing it coming. Then that is likely a skill issue and an Aim-9L would have killed you
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But the A10C is super Slow, in its current BR mostly when i am on the Battlefield Most of the enemys or my Teammates are gone.
Even if it moves up, the speed of the A-10 relative to the other aircraft it faces remains similar.
REALISTIC BATTLES
Vidar 8.0>8.7
T55 AM-1 8.7>9.0
KV-1B/E 4.0>4.3
ITO 90M 12.0>12.0
PANTSIR 12.0>12.7
Strv 122’s/2A7’s 12.0>12.7
2S38 10.0>11.0
I could do more but its just a few off the top of my head.
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yeah gaijins “balance™” decisions make my eyes bleed.
but sliver lining is at-least the M829A2 round isnt much better than the A1 round. like sub 50mm more pen better. which is accurate to the IRL specs, But its also an ancient round from 1992, and a M1A1 HA did fire/use them so no reason not to add that.
What shouldnt be using them are tanks of a much higher BR from 2003 and 2014 (sep v1/2), while also fighting 2020 tanks with a 1992 round from the last century.
thats crap and Wathunder knows it but doesnt care.
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They already can get to the ground targets or dont tell me you’re actually dying to ARH in a plane that sits at multipath 90% of the time
At 200 m/s at sea level the Aim-9M has 8km range within its motor burn thats an 6km deathzone where unless you’re actively pre flaring or looking at the A-10 it will kill you in a headdon or side aspect even if you fly past an A-10C it will kill a supersonic target as long as it fires within 3.4km
What plane at 12.0 besides the Mirage has access to IRCCM missiles and whats that going to do when the A-10 has a low heat signature and infinite CMs
The A-10C has been ruining 12.0 and especially sim for a while now and if you cant see that you probably have a severe skill issue and use the A-10C as a crutch and dont want it moved up
No it shouldn’t its comparable to the CV90 in most areas but its better than them as a SPAA while losing out to them in survivability, mobility and versatility
You’re delusional M829A2 is already the second best shell in the game what type of skill issue do you have that you want a shell that can lolpen most tanks UFPs including T-80U,BVM and T-72B
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TBF, there both staying the same, sure its going up but it means nothing besides maybe more down tiers. Not to mention Germanys leopard lineups are insane. Its 1 Abrams with that round, would you rather m829a3?? no you wouldn’t, let the USA players have 1 win. PLUS premium players are garbage so… doesn’t help much
not true m829a2 gets stopped by k5, the cv90s are better because of their br (not saying hstvl is bad, just worse is some ways),
Why its just a T-55 with LRF and some composite theres already better 8.7 still at 8.7
This is stupid the pantsir exists to make the game actually playable at toptier preventing CAS from dominating every game the moment they spawn in the only issue is NATO SPAA is slightly weaker than the pantsir
Why its comparable to all the other 10.3 IFVs
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The 2s38 isnt as good as people say but i would argue the constant fire rate and also its pen could grant 10.7 or maybe 11.0 after br changes. The T55 am1 is alright where it is, i would agree with you there, but the T55 AMD with aps should be 9.0 or even 9.3,
Its meant to get stopped by K-5 thats why MA292A3 exists it bypasses K-5 and would lolpen every russian vehicle in game currently bar the T-90M which would force russian tanks to be moved down in BR and curbstomp the 10.x range again but now with even better vehicles
T-69 IIG with worse armor is at 9.0
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