Exactly.
it is an issue, since you cant trade hits, and u cant snipe when many tanks have an LRF, the 120 doesnt even have a STAB. so 8.0 is to high and 7.3 is to low so i still think 7.7 would be fine or stretch the BR more afar. and think about the VIDAR this thing has a STAB, LRF and a fast reload for a 155mm gun its not fair that the 120 and the VIDAR are on the same BR. VIDAR needs to be nerfed.
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People seem to latch on to LRF as though it’s in any way required to snipe effectively. The 120 has an absolute railgun of a cannon that barely need to accomedate for drop at longer ranges, and it’ll go through pretty much any part of anything it will meet. Considering that at 8.0 only a couple vehicles have LRF, and outside the VIDAR that I’ll address later you only have the S tanks (Which are balanced on other merits) and the Ikv 91, which is so low velocity that just moving at longer ranges will still throw off even LRF shots most of the time.
The VIDAR doesn’t have a stabilizer. It still deserves 8.3, but that’s not really an argument that the Object 120 should go back to lolpenning WW2 era heavies.
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The object 120 ap ammunition has these weird non-penning moments that often makes no sense at all, I have had it failed to pen the T-69IIG from the sides (angled a tiny bit) close to the frontal tracks, it creates some spall and turns some internal parts yellow which broke the tracks and killed the driver, second shot I managed to hit the turret ring area but resulting in a non-pen lol no idea what responsible for this nonsense, volumetric mess? I’ve also played the two 8.7 Chieftains and find their apds somewhat more reliable in terms of post pen damage on-top of that rare shell shatters mechanic. I mean the object 120 looks like something no one should be taking a hit from them and surviving it, but I was getting a bunch of gaijin moments and sometimes non existent spalls from medium tanks armor lol
Volumetric giveth, volumetric taketh away.
I suppose the 120 is probably slightly more prone to run into those issues given it’s much larger caliber, and at longer ranges it’s harder to avoid volumetric prone spots on enemy tank, but it’s not something unique to the vehicle.
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yea thats why i dont snipe in the 120. to hit a target is easy but non-pen happens quite often and the post oen dmg is insanly bad for a 152mm gun
I perform pretty badly in it, few times I’ve got the Pradesh map and have so much trouble hitting targets due to the bad sight zoom and lacks of range finder, I wouldn’t have thought I have had a much easier time hitting targets with the Maus in this map lol the reason being the barrel of the Object 120 is so long that it barely has any bullet drop off, so by moving your barrel up or down by 1 pixel would result in your shell landing 100m difference, while Maus has big bullet drop off plus having a very good sight zoom where you has more room for adjustment, furthermore I could gauge the range by using the secondary, it doesn’t really take more than two shots from the secondary before I figured out the correct range. The only thing it lost is the velocity, moving targets is near impossible to hit with Maus at 2km but Object 120 could do it but you need to have a very steady hand or gaming mouse that set with low sensitivity lol
thats why i go close range or mid range with the 120
P sure they wont put it there for lack of lineup ngl
Its going to either stay at 8.0 or go to 8.7, nothing in between.
L2P issue.
so ? Half the tanks you hit frontally are dead.
if it would have one cuz it doesn’t
What ? one is a arty the other is a td
One fires rounds with 1700 m/s (obj 120)
Vidar barely reaches 950 m/s
Dude just get good for real
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yeah well I agree just seal clubbing WW2 heavies is bad, but the 8.0 BR range is complete BS because you get uptiers up until 9.0 and then it’s just seal clubbing for them
nope most tanks you hit frontally are not dead since no armor best armor, most of the times you need 2 shots. just play the 120 and you see
i couldnt have said it better
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I know how it is to play it mate, I myself bought it when it was at 7.3 haha
i meant the other guy actually but my bad for not being more precise
yeah I realized, but anyway yeah I know your pain
The T-54’s suck big time as well after they got moved to that BR range
How ?
most tank it faced before br change also got moved up
so nothing changed
how about you try to aim for the crew ?
most of the tanks at this br have 3 of 4 crewmember on 1 side
hitting them = dead
just because you can lol pen doesn’t mean you 1 hit, just sayin
theoretically yes you can go for crew, but still not a guranteed kill