Notching mechanics causing balance issues

Notching is too powerful as it currently is in the game. Notching mechanics haven’t been reworked since the addition of Fox 3s. Players have already adapted to the new missiles a long time ago and notching is simply too easy. You can consistently notch Fox 3s from extremely close distances using very little amount of chaff, as long as you can pull into the notch angle in time.

The gameplay loop comes down to acquiring lock with HMS and firing a Fox 3 HOBS. Long range missiles are rendered completely obsolete, as long range shots are (not) necessary only to keep the enemy busy, which any Fox 3 can do. The only things that matter are how hard your Fox 3 pulls, how violently it accelerates, the gimbal limits of your radar for HMS lock, and the flight model of your plane in case you merge.

Planes like Rafale or Mirage 2000 with MICAs are basically invincible. An experienced player in an F-16, F-15 or other AIM-120 carrier stands no chance against an experienced player in a Rafale or Mirage 2000.

The issue becomes especially pronounced with over-the-shoulder radars. Su-30SM2 can launch Fox 3s without ever putting itself in any danger.

All modern Fox 3 missiles are moving towards greater range with less maneuverability. With current notching mechanics, all of them will be DOA.


I think it’s about time to start increasing notching resistance of Fox 3s in small steps, until making it any stronger would make planes with longer range missiles too powerful.

Features like data link reconnect and third-party data link could be added to alleviate this problem; however, they won’t fix the balance without addressing the root cause, especially with mechanical radars.

Fox 3 gameplay will never be balanced, if the current notching mechanics don’t change.

Do you want to start increasing notching resistance of Fox 3s in small steps?
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I was about to completely disagree when I saw the title, but your explanation and reasoning do make sense. I completely agree.

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Multipathing is a bigger issue

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Let’s start by:

  1. adding stock chaff
  2. lowering multipath height (40m imo)
  3. giving all modern Fox-3s MICA seeker (No DirectSupport, we shall not buff the MICA or the Rafale with this change)
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Great ideas

Asking for unrealistic unhistorical changes isn’t gonna get anywhere. AIM-120s can get a similar change though due to a report.

Ask that this report be implemented: AMRAAM Beamwidth currently too large. // Gaijin.net // Issues

laaarp

They definetly need to do something, the question is what exactly.

Especially without things like ECM in-place. With that I would say they should make it so that DL doesnt stop when the missile goes active.

But I think its time for a total overhaul of radar-based combat.

Overhaul chaff, overhaul MP, rework ARH seekers, add ECM, add PD signatures for helis, properly model RCS, maybe even as far as finally modeling PESA vs AESA.