Not wasting my time with the F-15C "Golden Eagle"

not really

lets see, one of the worst 13.7s, one of the worst 12.7s and 13.0s, a mid 13.0 but gets dragged into under tiered 13.3s every match, and a 14.0 that still gets dragged into top tier despite having a bad radar, bad missile kit and awful WVR flight performance

the SM2 very much does too

and the SM/equivalents are very comparable or even better due to the much improved missile kit

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So three major things which make it worse at top tier for BVR fighting? Its missiles are about equal as well.

Only distinct advantage it has is the radar, which is already on a bug report.

16C is one of the best 13.7s mate what ? There’s like 2 better than it, being the J10A and what?

The 12.7 F14 is great man what?

The AV8B+ as well does pretty damn good in its bracket ?

The WVR isn’t bad at all if you fly it properly, however its not supposed to be in WVR? Why are you taking the 15E to those positions?
Its also got a good missile kit?

We also arw getting 120Ds soon too.

maybe the issue is that you dont realize that BVR is very off meta, unless you have a radar with a high enough gimble limit to provide datalink while in notch

In radar performance that’s it mate.

Flight performance the su30 is a flying continent

Scuse me? It very much isn’t off meta, at all

Most F series planes can infact hold a target in the gimble while pulling a notch.

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How, none of them have a radar that goes to 90+ degrees

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except it very much is at top tier with the exception of it you can guide a missile with datalink while notching, which if you dont know is not something any US planes in game can do

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you mean it is much better in both radar performance and missile kit with only a very small disadvantage in flight performance but a much higher instantaneous turn rate

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its not the only nations with better planes are russia japan and france

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In what metric? Its fast, extremely controllable, and can literally hover in place

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at low speed it suffers but that isnt relevant in most arb situations

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SM2 is great at flying the only one that isnt is SM

16c is the 2nd worst 13.7 lol the best 13.7 is su-27sm

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Nah I would say the f-16 am and the f-16 ocu are both worse than it

they are equal since am and ocu have block 15 airframe which is lighter so it has better energy retention at the cost of hmd which really isnt an issue since you can just tallbox acm

are you just ignoring the EFT?

yeah its inferior to the ge since it carries 4 less arh its like 5th best plane

ah yes, 4 more bad missiles clearly is enough to offset a massively better flight model and radar

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they carry the same missiles and 120c-5 and 120a still have launch limits so the euro radar doesnt really help much aswell as the euro having an abysmal highspeed fm where it wobbles all over the place and the captor-e only has a better gimbal than the an/apg63 v3 also 12 missiles is 1.5 times larger than 8 missiles so idk what ur on about

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