Not wasting my time with the F-15C "Golden Eagle"

Not to mention keeping it in 13.0 in ground WHILE IT DOESNT HAVE ANY REAL CAS OPTIONS.
That is last part of that sht… How on earth gaijin tought it would be 13.0 in ground… Could be dropped in 12.0 in ground games

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For its weight? Damn right it’s a monster. You’re making comparisons to apples and oranges. Rafale and Eurofighter are much lighter, with the latter being a multirole interceptor, so of course it/they can out accelerate the F-15E

A fix (however that may look like) would come soon I’m sure, but what exactly does it change if it does nothing really against the competition?

what does it have to fight every game?

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Yeah, and also we can start talking that F15 was made to be air SUPERIORITY fighter.
Only thing what this is superior , is being most horrendous top tier plane ever made.

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I forgot there were weightclasses in this game, i guess it doesnt see ef2k everymatch considering its much heavier!

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dont then.

Sure its apples to oranges, its not like EF, raf and GE are all the same BR and therefore see each other every single game, no “if”, no “maybe”, no exceptions whatsoever.

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Mostly because the basic airframe is decades older than it’s counterparts, also as one of the first airframes to develop and leverage digital design techniques it should be fairly well understood that it’s not going to do too well in comparison to later designs leverage later technologies, construction techniques and materials.

Honestly the fact that better missiles are off the table (due to an instance that 5th gen IIR missiles will be deployed simultaneously and the fact that the AIM-9X is by far the worst due to the constraints of being the only one to retain the smaller 5" diameter ), and that later AMRAAMs wouldn’t materially improve the situation really leaves few options to actually give it an edge that would be unique to it. Which is frustrating to no end.

I really do think that the AIM-95 would have been a better counterpart to the R-73 in game, which would have left the AIM-9M to be implemented later with the much improved seeker performance it should have.

research the ge and then talk man, straight line monste? dude rafale climbs faster, and is much faster than this sheet

It’s all the same about airframe etc, TRUTH IS this is not 14.3 material plane in anyway.
This shit should not be even close to 14.3 in current armament what it got.
If weapons would be useable it could make a difference no matter that airframe is what it is, best thing to prove it is su30sm. If that would come on regular R77’s and R60’s it would be nowhere near top tier plane.

120’s needs more speed and alt to work on f15, F15E was monster when it game, cos it got speed and alt advantage over anything, now EF and Typhoons can dominate , since they got speed and alt advantage over 15C , 7M’s are just miserable missiles, should be given P’s instead so it would have DL.
9M’s are flip a coin , they work or not.

And now when this is facing MICAS nearly every game, just tell me that best option to avoid micas is not just crash on trees and least deny kill from micanoob

Should be given Aim-9X block II and ability to LOAL it would make it 14.3 worthy

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This is not going to happen without every other nation also getting their next gen IR missiles though.

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Yep.
Unfortunately gaijin realised they babysitted US and USSR air so long, that now they hate it like a teen who spent all family money in Las Vegas.

And Gaijins new favourite baby is land of Frogeaters

You all really need to stop comparing legacy 70s designs with purpose built gen 4.5 airframes.
F-15s are not Rafales or Typhoon or even Gripens and have lost in BFM with Eurocanards.

F/A-18, F-15EX, Su-35 will all lose in kinematics to a Typhoon or Rafale.
Su-57, F-22 and J-20 are the ones that are on Eurocanards level.

then they need something to compensate to play at the same battle ratings

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What do you suggest?

I mean the most simple thing would be to use the BR system, but this would mostly just mean that the Rafale gets moved up into oblivion (not that I would mind that).

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I would say something like advantage in missiles but this is a challenge to balance out
as far as F-15C GE goes, this vehicle is just junk

Moving Rafale to 15.7 would balance current 14.3 so much that everyone would enjoy.
And placing mirages with micas on 14.7

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Yeah gaijin usually hates moving new BR up unless there’s multiple vehicles available to occupy that top spot for whatever reason, I’m not sure what that number of vehicles necessary is, but yeah.

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Well that part is damn near impossible to figure out I would think.