And would probably would need the MAWS that the F15EX could install as well
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3D model incorrect, literally unplayable
R-77-1 was a colossal leap ahead, and “compatible” racks were nothing it needed.
“rather good AESA” and its a copy and paste 63v1 but sped up -_-
idc if the CAS weapons from the 15GE go away, matters not, but the point is they added a woefully shit plane at a BR it cant compete at, and did fuck all to correct matters in the ample time in planning, prepping, dev-ing and releasing the patch. Absolute buffoonery, reported by cowards xD
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The r77-1 is the strongest missiles in the game kinematically.
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Your post is claiming R-77 is the 2nd best by claiming R-77-1 is the best.
A claim not seen in your posts prior to today.
Which means MICA EM isn’t top 2 under your post’s argumentation.
MICA EM is #1 missile kinetics.
After that requires sensor viewing, however I doubt R-77 is 3rd place.
Those that resort to vulgarity in response to reason…
I may have over-criticized the Su-30SM [not my takes], and I may have defended the F-15C GE most; but that’s no reason for irrationality.
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More that the aircraft is unstable at 6000m+
the airframe itself is great, just the instructor and twitchy fm.
With a better Radar Typhoon would be massively improved. But the 120 and having only 6 of them is a drawback. I dont see an end to Rafales dominance until we all have missiles of similar level to the MICA
A Typhoon with 4 120s and 6 ASRAAM would be the dream and elevate it to the Rafales level.
I would like to see a buff to all other seekers to bring them inline with MICA.
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Unstable at 6000 plus? Not when im in it.
Thing handles brillaintly compared to F15, Mig29 (naturally), gripen, mirages that ive used.
For top tier only one plane beats it and that’s rafale, F15E is faster at higher alts i think think.
The 6 aim120s are fine granted the short range capabilities are a bit questionable.
Though i am working towards the mirage at 13.7 then the rafale, kinda been on the back burner for a few months.
With asraam? Really? It would be untouchable until we got stuff with stealth capabilites like the F22 and F35s
Like saying give it meteors.
You’re again showing a clear case of wanting what is yours buffed to stupid levels while others fall behind, what you state is not balance at all.
For example the typhoons imbalance is in its brimstones, seeing as
- 1 they should be brim 2,
- 2 they should be fire and forget, they could add 6 of them ss FnF and thw rest as SAL to mitigate the power of them.
- 3 other nationes typhoons didn’t actually mount any brimstone, technically Germany is buying brim 3 for their typhoons for 2028.
As for ARB the typhoon is 2nd best in game, its not often that happens with british kit, especially after the radar patches months ago i went back and tried it out, thing slams.
You say this as if MICA is some super OP missile, they notch just the same as any other.
Granted in close quarters theyre brutal but so are R77s , i would know, i use the standard R77.
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In my experience at top tier / ARH missiles.
The R-77 standards are tied for 5th place if even.
- 1 MICA
- 2 R- 77 -1
- 3 AIM120 B / C though C is technically proven to be under performing.
- 4 Derbies on the kfic C10 as well
- 5 R-77 / R - Darters.
I find the R77 extremely good in that 2 - 7km range.
Past that they just miss so mucn.
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The problem with F-15C GE is that in reality it was made as a filler …
It’s based on being the good old reliable F-15C with AESA and AIM-9X/AIM-120D (which in game we don’t have anyway…) .
So Gj bringing it at this state with just 9M and 120A/C (and i don’t even know why they have stuck their heads with 120A ) just to fill the niche of an AESA Eagle without inreality bringing anything new to the table or even the reason of its existance (better armament) , is a bit…pro-active move. Not a good one , but pro-active. Because in the next 2-3 updates they can just update its weapons…and still not give EX , while Israel for example can get Greek Rafale instead of 15IA.
It’s a bit ^marketing ^ solution… to slow things down, because guys after a few variants top tier will become too narrow… not many options.
US for 4,5 gen has F/A-18E/F (with the other nations that used it and are in the game or may come) and F-15EX and F-16V …
Russia has Su-35/MiG 35 ( i don’t know about MiG 31 and how and what variants we may see in the game).
You have the latest batch of EF2K and Rafale (now we have the previous bests) .
And all of them share many weapons with the previous versions because they are not that much time apart…
I don’t know if i miss any planes (Tejas?) in that gen , but that’s …2 or 3 updates worth of material.
So yeah, i don’t like its addition either because it brings nothing for the moment , but it’s not they could avoid it and just get to F-22 (for example) from the 15C MSIP II…
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Agreed, after some comments in this thread I went and flew the EFT a bit, and at high alt (~7000m) and fast, due to the insane pull at speeds, the instructor cannot handle the 14g+ and over/undercorrects parts of the flight surfaces, leading to a dramatic speed loss, which is annoying because you’d think that would be the result of using AoA mode, but nah i went from mach 1.7 to 0.86 after 2 basic defensive maneuvers, while an F-15 would have remained at speed throughout the whole maneuver.
TLDR: Despite having amazing capabilities, the FM of the Eurofighter is still far too unstable in mouse aim, and the instructor needs a fix to limit the a average AoA of turns to maintain energy
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Well there’s a bit more options than that tbh…
USA can get exports like the F-16E, F-15K, F-15SA and upgrades like the USMC F/A-18C+;
USSR can get the Su-30SM2 and more fulcrums like the M/M2;
China has a whole lot of options, J-10C, J-11BG, J-15, J-15T, J-16 and more;
UK, Germany, Italy, France can have a few more variants of the Eurocanards;
Sweden still desperately needs newer Gripens;
Israel can get more F-15 variants.
And indeed India has gotten nothing memorable for now, and they still have plenty to offer (looking at you Su-30MKI and Tejas Mk1A).
Now I’m not saying we need all of these, but they would offer enough diversity in gameplay so we wouldn’t run out of gen 4.5 for a bit
Edit: I’d add, we don’t need a gazillion top tier jets per update. The rest of the tiers are far from being out of options to add, and really need some love. If we get one or two toppers per update, we won’t run out of top tier options for a while.
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last time I flew it at 7k + alt it was fine, 14Gs is one hell of a high G manuever to pull.
caveat
I’ve just taken my EF2000 out on a test flight, it holds its speed fine providing you don’t just slam the elevator. how you actually notch not just pulling it like mad.
You saw how Gaijin modelled the IRIS-T and 9X they can be flared easilly enough. ASRAAM will be no different in game.
With more jets getting MAWS/Protection systems long range ASRAAM shots would probably be defeated.
MICA is far harder to defeat the seeker is the best in game. Not an opinion but a fact. You could add an F-22 and give it 9Ms and 120Cs and it would still struggle against MICA and Rafale.
Not just the Eurofighter. Rafale suffers from this too and I’m betting the Gripen as well. Its the reason I die so much after dodging a couple missiles 😂 no more energy to turn
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IRIS-T and 9X suffer from starting from 0 speed. Slap them on aircraft moving beyond Mach 1 and they’re not as “avoidable” as they are now.
Also, MICA EM isn’t comparable to those two. MICA IR is good, but it’s not the best among them in seeker performance, only range.
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What even ? it wouldn’t at all xD
ASMAAR would make EF2000 stupidley OP
There was a small update 2.51.0.20 and u still did not repair this thing? xd
I mean yeah it’s not mutually exclusive, just the hideous modelling of canards and instructor in game.
The AoA toggle should have a mode to maintain speed imo, so you would have normal, maneuver and restricted for different scenarios
Funny, because I had similar things happen when I played the F-15 yesterday.
EFT with usable radar? Next you will claim that earth is flat!
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I want some of what he’s having