North American B-25H Mitchell - The Ultimate Flying Artillery

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North American B-25H Mitchell

   Hello everybody. I’d like to suggest the North American B-25H Mitchell for the US aviation tree in War Thunder. The B-25H was based on the B-25C airframe but equipped with a lighter T13E1 75 mm cannon, accompanied by four to eight machine guns. It also introduced improvements in defensive armament, such as staggered waist guns and a redesigned tail turret that would later be standard on the B-25J. Like the B-25G, this variant was intended primarily for anti-shipping strikes in the South Pacific, as well as for attacks against ground targets.

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Sources

  • EE-393 Wartime Tactical Planning Characteristics & Performance Charts (1 July 1945)
  • Walk Around B-25 Mitchell - Walk Around Number 12 (1997)
  • Warbird Tech Vol. 12 - North American B-25 Mitchell (1998)
  • B-25 Mitchell in Detail & Scale - D&S Vol. 60 (1999)
  • Crowood Aviation Series - North American B-25 Mitchell (2001)
  • Osprey Combat Aircraft 032 - B-25 Mitchell Units of the MTO (2002)
  • B-25 Mitchell - Detail in Action (2022)
  • North American B-25 Mitchell - Wikipedia
  • North American B-25H Mitchell

Thank you for taking the time to read my suggestion! 😃

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How is this different from the PBJ-1H in game already?

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Someone didn’t read the history and specs sections thoroughly, smh.

There was a handful of USAAF B-25Hs operating in China that were equipped with the AN/APG-13A “Falcon” gun-laying radar, which assisted the pilot by providing continuous range information for accurate long-range cannon fire. It essentially worked like an early form of CCIP, just in a far more primitive fashion. That’s exactly why I’m suggesting it be included; it makes the B-25H meaningfully distinct from the PBJ-1H.

Another difference is that the PBJ-1H had a bulky radar radome, which provided a slight flight performance penalty. The B-25H, without its radar, would be somewhat lighter and more agile; however, you might argue that it is a negligible change.

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+1 if one of the H variants ever gets added, will you make a separate suggestion for the other 2?

As long as the B-25H gets its Falcon gunlaying radar, I would not bother to make another for subvariants.

Otherwise, someone will scream C&P.

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IMO, it would also be nice for the PBJ-1H’s radar to be functional, maybe further differentiating it from the B-25G. (and IIRC the late PBJs could use HVARS; adding another layer to differentiate)

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More stuff on the AN/APG-13A, thanks to this Reddit post:

What it would look like in the cockpit with the radar equipment:

There are surviving historical films that describe this equipment:

https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/1060039093

https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/1060039060

Though those, unfortunately, aren’t available digitally. Hopefully, someone will be able to get them somehow. Even so, one of the provided links gives a concise technical overview of the AN/APG-13A system.

What we know is that the radar had two forms: the AN/APG-13, a pre-production model, and the AN/APG-13A, an improved production variant that incorporated several refinements after testing.

In practice, the system worked by feeding information from the radar operator directly into the pilot’s gunsight. The operator, seated beside the pilot, had to continuously track the target and dial the necessary corrections into the sight. The films would illustrate this process far better than I do.

The equipment worked well when tracking against isolated targets. Even if they tracked against multiple targets, they almost did not hinder target acquisition, as the secondary targets would display as weaker, fading signals, while the primary target would return a strong signal.

I want both the B25G and H models

Yes. We should get both.

thanks for catching that lol