NF-5A - The Dutch variant of the Canadair Freedom Fighter

Would you like to see this in-game?
  • Yes
  • No
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In what techtree would you like to see this aircraft be added in?
  • In the French BeNeLux sub-tree
  • In a future Dutch/BeNeLux techtree.
  • I said “No” in the first question.
  • Other (Please explain in the comments).
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The unique Dutch modification of the candair CF-5, armed with AIM-9P missiles and several improvements which would later be used on the F-5E.

TL;DR: Dutch F-5 variant with sidewinders


History

History

In 1966, the Koninklijke Luchtmacht (Royal Netherlands Air Force, or KLu) selected the F-5 Freedom Fighter to replace its aging fleet of F-84F Thunderstreaks. Initially, the Netherlands had hoped to co-produce over 200 F-5s in collaboration with Belgium, but Belgium opted for the Mirage 5 instead. While the KLu was not initially thrilled with the F-5, they requested several improvements to the base design, which closely mirrored the upgrades already implemented by Canada in its CF-5 model. As a result, the Dutch government decided to acquire its F-5s from Canadair’s production line rather than building them domestically.

In KLu service, the single-seater was designated the NF-5A, and the two-seater version became the NF-5B. The Dutch-ordered aircraft were identified as CL-226 by the Canadair factory, with the single-seaters being CL-226-1A10 and the two-seaters CL-226-1A11. Initially, the order was for 90 single-seat aircraft and 15 two-seaters, but this was revised to 75 NF-5As and 30 NF-5Bs. A letter of intent for these aircraft was signed on January 30, 1967, with deliveries scheduled to begin in late 1969.

To secure the Dutch order, the Canadian government offered a substantial offset program, which involved collaboration with Dutch companies. Fokker and Avio Diepen produced fuselage and tail assemblies in the Netherlands, which were then shipped to Canada for final assembly. These companies also worked on the Canadian CF-5 program.

The first four NF-5Bs were flown to the Netherlands by Dutch pilots during a “High Flight” on November 19, 1969, from Montreal, marking the beginning of the NF-5’s service with the KLu.

When the NF-5 aircraft were withdrawn from active service, they were transferred to the VUD unit at Gilze-Rijen Air Base, where the VUD insignia was painted on some of the aircraft. The engines were run every 45 days, and a short test flight was conducted every 90 days. This maintenance routine ceased in late 1980, after which the aircraft were relocated to Woensdrecht Air Base for long-term storage.

The NF-5A saw only limited action during its service, mostly during NATO exercises, like in Norway and the Netherlands itself. Supported by a Fokker F-27 during the traditional winter exercise in Norway, the aircraft participated in attacking enemy troops during a simulated beach landing, alongside other Norwegian, Canadian, and RAF units.

By 1989, it became clear that a substantial portion of the NF-5 fleet would be transferred to Turkey. An agreement was made to transfer 60 aircraft, along with spares and ground equipment, free of charge. The first deliveries took place in June 1989. A similar arrangement was also made with Greece, with pilots and technicians from both countries receiving training at Eindhoven Air Base.

The disposition of the remaining active NF-5s was as follows: 54 NF-5As and 6 NF-5Bs were sent to Turkey; 11 NF-5As (one designated solely for spare parts recovery) and 1 NF-5B were transferred to Greece; and 1 NF-5A and 6 NF-5Bs were sent to Venezuela. Of the 60 NF-5s sent to Turkey, only 34 were intended for operational use, while the remaining aircraft were retained in the Netherlands for spare parts recovery. Some aircraft were preserved as gate guardians at various Dutch air bases, others were utilized for technical training, and several were placed in museums or storage before being scrapped.


Design & Differences with the Canadair CF-5

Design & Differences with the Canadair CF-5

Technically, the NF-5 was the most advanced version of the Freedom Fighter to date. It featured several improvements over the CF-5, such as the incorporation of maneuvering leading-edge flaps into a reinforced wing structure. These electrically-operated flaps, located at both the leading and trailing edges, were synchronized by a control box and operated via a thumb switch on the starboard throttle lever. When set for high-speed maneuvering, the flaps provided a 50-percent increase in the instantaneous turning rate. The NF-5A/B also featured increased external fuel capacity, and the stronger wing structure allowed for more ordnance to be carried, with provisions for larger external fuel tanks and ejector bomb racks.

Differences with the Canadair CF-5

In terms of avionics, many of the systems from the CF-5 were removed. The Dutch NF-5As used the standard Northrop non-computing gunsight but replaced the Sperry gyro heading and reference system with a Bendix attitude and heading reference system. The NF-5 was equipped with a Canadian Marconi Type 668 Doppler navigation system, a 703 navigation system with a roller map, an attitude heading and reference system, emergency UHF radio, and a radio altimeter.

The NF-5 also featured a tailhook under the fuselage and a reinforced windscreen to protect against bird strikes. These modifications, along with others, were later incorporated into the F-5E ‘Tiger II’. As the NF-5 fleet progressed, several upgrades were made, including improved canopies and avionics, as well as the addition of radar warning receivers and ALE-40 chaff and flare dispensers mounted on the rear fuselage. Most NF-5A, like the one in this suggestion, had their wingtip tanks replaced with Sidewinder missile-launching rails.


Specifications

Crew: 1
Length: 14,36 m
Wingspan: 7,83 m
Height: 4,01 m
Empty weight: 4.750 kg
Powerplant: 2x General Electric J-85-CAN-15 (13,01 kN each) with afterburner (19 kN each)


Maximum straight line speed: 1.275 km/h
Service ceiling: 14.500 m


Armament

Canadair NF-5A
Loadouts
Main gun 2x M39A2 20mm (560 rounds)
Pylons Wingtip left (9) Outer wing left (8) Inner wing left (6) Fuselage (5) Inner wing right (4) Outer wing right (2) Wingtip right (1)
reference AIM-9P AIM-9P
reference Mk.82 500lb Snake-eye High Drag Mk.82 500lb Snake-eye High Drag
reference Mk.82 500lb Snake-eye LowDrag Mk.82 500lb Snake-eye Low Drag
reference Training rocket pod (4x FFAR)
reference DIAS camera + Training rocket pod (4x FFAR)
reference DIAS camera
reference LAU-51 (19x FFAR) LAU-51 (19x FFAR)
reference LAU-3A (19x FFAR) LAU-3A (19x FFAR)
reference 600 lbs BL755 cluster bomb 600 lbs BL755 cluster bomb 600 lbs BL755 cluster bomb
reference External fuel tank External fuel tank External fuel tank External fuel tank External fuel tank

Place in War Thunder

The NF-5A would serve as a lightweight fighter to represent the Dutch air force, capable of manouvres which its F-104G’s were uncapable of. In the current Benelux subtree it could also be a decent rank VII dogfighter. However, this plane would be one of the core additions to a separate Benelux tech tree, if that were ever to come.


Pictures

On the field


Full fuel tank loadout

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Yeah no -1, im tired of the f5 spam and France has a ton of indigenous jets yet to be added

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+1 for the Dutch freedom fighter. (Even more from me as it was built by Canada)

Truthfully I’d rather it in the BeNeLux tree(and TT) but I’ll take the French at worse.

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this would basicaly be a copy paste from the chinese one, i much rather have them get something unique like the Fokker S.14 or if we talking about the sub tree maybe the late mirage 5ba or even the Magister, but i really think we should not give every nation in game an F-5
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Neither F-5 variants of the one in the chinese tech tree are a copy paste of the NF-5A… As I wrote in this article:

The F-5E in the Chinese tech tree under the RoCAF comes closest, but even then still would recieve a different flight model, cockpit and ordinance.

This suggestion is not an ‘either x or y’ one, it’s a suggestion for a unique F-5 variant with unique munitions for a nation that could be a separate tech tree, like in the Benelux proposal. I also agree that the MirSIP Mirage 5BA and the Magister should also come in-game, but one doesn’t exclude the other.

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Well, it sure would be there, I guess
Why not, +1

Did those have armaments tested? Well G at least, I know V didn’t

the Vtol one didnt, but gaijin added jets that never had any guns irl in the game so it could work, probably slap two defas and magics and call it a day, i just want to see the fastest vtol jet ever built in the game, it was also enormous so imagine a school bus coming at you at +mach 2, would be hilarious

As much as I’m against fictionalizing vehicles, half of German high tiers uses missiles they never even owned, so yknow what, screw it, I support the Mirage V

honestly id rather see the mirage g first, would probably be more flyable and would def rattle so big nation players because that thing would be really nasty in the right hands

Slightly better ROCAF F-5A from china tech tree

Someone flagged my post because of the f word, amazing. If youre that fragile i cant fathom how you survive when necessity forces you out of your home and into the real world.

Big +1 from me, as a supporter of the “F-5 in (almost) every tech tree” idea!
There’s a lot of unique F-5 modifications yet to be added, and this would add something quite nice to the BeNeLux sub tree :D

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Im gonna just say this, it wouldn’t matter. Gaijin would model it as a basic F-5 like they did with the F-5A(G) because they couldn’t be bothered to try. You put too much faith in gaijin, still if correctly added would be cool to see.

This expostition photo shows a LAU-3A rocket pod.

This video also shows the use of the centre mounted rocket pod.

I’ll add this munition later to the suggestion.

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