The NF-5A will be coming to War Thunder in the upcoming major patch “Leviathans” as a pre-order premium pack vehicle. This Discussion is an attempt at consolidating all known bug reports on this specific vehicle to see what should and shouldn’t be on the final in-game vehicle.
Regarding the engine, it is stated that it is for an uninstalled engine. So they are going to defend its current thrust as correct, have been the same procedure with the other F-5’s.
Do you know what kind of sight is dsiplayed in those diagrams?
A standard Northrop non-computing gunsight but replaced the Sperry gyro heading and reference system with a Bendix attitude and heading reference system, at least according to what I’ve read.
Yeah they are rated on mounts outside the aircraft, and then gaijin can decide the amount of channel losses thenselves. For example, the F-5A using the J85-13 engine have less thrust than the G.91Y using the same engines.
wait is this pre-order pack is a scam coz like 70USD just for a f-5A with more CM only
why does it so expensive
and you said ECM was equipped, how is it exactly
I didn’t have anything to do with pricing. The pricing is based upon the Rank of a vehicle. All rank 7 planes are 69.99 GJN. Take it up with Gaijin’s marketing department.
The NF-5A is not an F-5A.
The NF-5A has a lot more differences than ‘just more countermeasures’.
The ECM pod is installed right above the engines and those triangular boxes on the top left and right on the sides of the engines.
Please read the articles above. You’ll find answers to most, if not all, of your questions…
Thank you for your reply and answers
I dont think i need to rephase my questuon but anyway
I just realise that im comparing its stats cards to a F5E, seems it should be better then a regular F5A？Im not sure, i haven’t check yet
But as far as i concern, does the ECM we’re talking here is same as the one on Su39？
Thanks
That’s correct! The NF-5A is an improvement on the CF-5A, which in turn is the Canadian Canadair licence produced variant of the Northrop F-5A. The F-5E is based on the improvements introduced on the NF-5A, such as the cockpit, canopy, ECM, engines, etc.
No it’s not, as far as I know it’s mostly the RWR system paired with countermeasure pods. This system is from the 1980s. As can be read in my post:
I could see it going up in BR for Ground Realistic Battles. As for now on the dev server it’s definitely 10.7 in Air Realistic Battles, as can be seen in the first picture of this thread.
We don’t know what to do about that, the values used by Gaijin are absent in any Government or Military documents. The bug-reported values are the only ones present in any documentation and tests.
i think they want exact value on installed engine since mounting and normal air enviroment would give different thrust value
but most modern aircraft doesnt suffer alot from this
usually the installed engine would maybe have 1-5% less thrust
“channel loss” is informerly used to describe this although its not official(but gaijin devs/mods use this)
i say they should buff it closer to the value on bench test
from what i research older jet has much higher CL(around 10-25%, condition dependant) than modern jets(around 1-5%, condition dependant)
also idk how gaijin calculate thrust of installed engine
i think they just made up numbers to balance it out tbh
I don’t, but I am aware of the ALE-40(N) mount: 60 chaff/flare.
ALE-40(N). This is a special variant designed for the Royal Netherlands NF-5 and consists of a CCU(cockpit control unit), chaff/ flare programmer, and two dispensers. It is skin mounted on the aft fuselage. A similar installation was used on the F-104. (Compared to the normal US F-5E ALE-40(V) dispensers, that could only launch 30 normal flares, 15 on each side.)
However, later manuals do mention the additional 30 large-calibre flare countermeasures. I have not yet seen what that installment was called, but is was located near the root of the tail. As far as I know, the ALE-40(N) dispensers (which were further upgraded in their last phase) are just larger than their counterparts on the F-5E, which would explain the additional 30 large countermeasures.
Some illustration of the normal ALE-40(N) (clearly 10x3 layout):
An example of the old 5x3 (large calibre) flare layout:
