yeah plus AHEAD is not being sold to any country yet, less china and even so if it was something like a similar shell the pattern and size of the holes would be different too
the metal plate is shot by apds. I’ve seen the video, it has AHEAD, and shoot a drone.
Though AHEAD is not being sold to any country, but it doesn’t mean nobody can develop one by their own, it’s just most people are accustomed to calling it AHEAD, not a programed time-fused ammo.
It can be down in gun chamber. muzzle coils are better, but it’s a gatling gun so it can’t have.
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its proxy fuse then
The 625E and 630E don’t have any export orders right now, but hasn’t Rheinmetall already sold AHEAD ammo?I’m not sure.
In the vehicle’s introductory video, it twice shoots down drones by firing munitions that explode in the air.
This munition operates by timing its detonation based on the number of revolutions it makes after it is fired.It is programmed by the fire control computer at the time of firing, not at the time of discharge, so there are no programming coils, the downside of this method is that the muzzle velocity of the munition can’t be measured to allow it to be detonated more accurately.
For this reason, many believe it should not be defined as an “AHEAD”.It was accurately referred to as the “Programmable Prefabricated Fragmentation Ammunition” on the display boards and was shown as the same type of ammunition as the 35mm AHEAD.
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no, proxy fuse is too large for 25mm or 30mm ammo, no space for the charge.
it’s programmed airburst ammunition.
There are many types, some like the original AHEAD, little charge to spread sub-projectiles, some are programmed he-frag
the similar Chinese one is LD-35, similar revolver 35mm gun, SAS3 is a 6 tube Gatling gun.
rather funny the 35 mm its an exact copy of ahead, idk if the 30 or 25 mm has proxy fuse tho, it dosent seem like, sine i dont see any cutout, as for rheinmetall they do plan on selling ammo but only to a few countries between those UK and Ukraine
China imported Swiss GDF 35mm tech at 1980s, and then improved it with South Africa. But that time, AHEAD was not for sale, so China developed their own based on same idea. They tried proxy fuse too, but the proxy fuse takes up too much space, so it’s abandoned.
that’s pretty interesting, how many fragments does it have?
Not sure, from the image, it seem Chinese AHEAD has larger sub-projectiles, so should less the original one, this matches some reports about Chinese army’s comment on AHEAD’s poor damage to some targets. Sometimes, the target drone and missile keep flying after hit by dozens of projectiles. And projectiles can do nothing to some large missiles or guided bombs, that’s why it is equipped with apds(25mm) and apfsds(30mm)
I’m afraid it would work rather poorly if the ammo is programmed before even being fired. The brutal efficiency and precision AHEAD is known for is due to every single round being programmed at the muzzle. Even machine loaded ammunition with fairly precise measurements can have MV variances in the order of more than 5 to 10m/s.
Without MV measurements and muzzle ammo programming, you would have to adopt a brute force method with huge payloads in each round. Brute force payloads would be required to compensate for variance in time of flight. At that rate, you may as well abandon programming the ammunition and rely on miniaturized proximity fuses or sheer volume of fire. It appears to me that volume of fire is their solution to that problem.
from the video, I can say it’s quite accurate, so I guess they have some way to do this without muzzle coils.
Russian new anti-drone spaa, ZAK-23E, also use programmed 23mm ammo.
still too large and expensive for small ammo even with modern tech
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Presumably aviation in rank 9 (IX) probably to be attack aircraft armed with 5th gen IR AAM & stand off PGM, 4th gen fighter aircraft with 5th gen infrared Air-to-Air Missile & active radar homing medium-range Air-to-Air Missile in late 2000’s and 4.5 gen fighter aircraft with PESA & AESA radar and very modern Air-to-Air & Air-to-Ground armament
List of aircraft at rank 9, for example
- MiG-29SMT 9-19 (move from rank 8 with R-74 & R-77-1)
- Su-30M2
- Su-30SM
- Su-27SM3
- F/A-18D Hornet (USMC) (2008)
- F/A-18E Super Hornet blk.1 & blk.2
- Chengdu J-10B & J-10C
- HAl Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A
- F-16 Block 70/72
- Mirage 2000D RMV
- EA-18G Growler
- Shenyang J-15
- Mirage 2000-5F (move to rank 9 with MiCA IR)
- Mirage 2000-5 Mk.2
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better replaced with mig-35
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However, MiG-35 better MiG-29SMT (9-19)
I mean, mig-35 in the list, and remove smt
In fact MiG-29SMT (9-19) armed IR AAM and active radar homing BVRAAM like MiG-29K (9-41), Su-30M2 and Su-27SM3.
but now in game Air-to-Air armament from MiG-29S (9-13S), MiG-29SMT (9-17) and MiG-29M (9-15)
M1A1 SA-UKR with Kontakt-1 ERA on LFP and UFP and M-19 ARAT-1 blocks on hull sides
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