it’s a pick of a predecesor of the 2-S25 SPRUT-SD back in very early development , compared to the modern SPRUT-SD , witch is based on a BMD-4 chassi , and was developed in the 2000’s , this is one of the project thought of to enlarge the capability’s of the BMD-3 (OBJECT-950) Chassi in 1990 , the vehicle itself having finished it’s testing in 1988 and being commanded that same year , with a second batch of them to come in 1990.
here are some of the other project from that same time on the same chassi , you can recognise in this pick what would become (not necesarly on the BMD-3 chassi) the already mentionned 2S25 Sprut-SD taking the other-all design , the BMD-4 taking the gun configuration (althought the 120mm gun was replaced by a 100mm one like the BMP-3) , the 2C18 “Pat-S” (on BMP-3 chassi) , a failed attempt to put the nona spg turret on a BMD-3 chassi , and what would become respectively the TKB-841 (on a BMP-3 chassi) and the ZPRK Roman/ЗРПК “Роман” (on a actual BMD-3 chassi)
I don’t even think they’d suffer too badly at the current br of the CL-13 MK.6 would still have a better flight model but CAC-27 would be much punchier (not sure about the -86 H)
CL-13 Mk.6A is glorious but fighting 3 people at once and winning only to get strafed or missiled by a supersonic jet is a bit of a pain greatly limiting your potential.
German Luchs recon and Luchs A1 recon
German Leopard 1A3
german Leopard 2 A1 and leopard 2 A3
German Fuchs family
German Spz lang hs.30 normal IFV
German Marder 2 protype, should be premium as all protypes should be.
German M42 / Flak 40mm L60 ZwSF
German Boxer with lance turet
Puma with ATGM´s and its uprgade kit for armour and the ability to downgrade it to standart armour.
Soviet BRDM family recon to ATGM models
Soviet Bear bomber and ASW and ASM versions
Soviet Blackjack
Soviet Mig 25 and Mig 31
Soviet BuK
Soviet BTR family
I rather see the M42 / Flak 40mm L60 ZwSF as it was the initial equipemnt of the Bundweswehr and it is a historical vehicel that is missing in the thre. I dont care for shooting enemy grund units with AAA. So rather the M42 then some meme ammo.
Its worse than Ostwind and Wirbelwind tho? If you want a higher power slower fireing gun, then youll also find the 5 cm Flak 41 L/67 on Sd.Kfz.7 and DB L 4500 A.
What part of “the M42 / Flak 40mm L60 ZwSF as it was the initial equipemnt of the Bundweswehr and it is a historical vehicel that is missing” you do not want to understand?
Yes if its a nations arsenal it belongs in the tech three. It fill the gap for early cold war AAA. Not the protype ww2 gear that was long time decomishend and not anym more in use.
It provides better armor for one and better mobility so there is that.
Common Tactical Wheeled Vehicle - Infantry Combat Vehicle (CTWV-ICV) for Japan. I’m curious what it’s official designation will be, supposedly 24 are to be purchased. Essentially a 8x8 with 3rd-gen thermals (expected) and a 30mm Mk.44 Bushmaster Autocannon. Likely BR for it 9.7 since it essentially plays as a VBCI-2 (MCT30).
Also hope they integrate ATGM’s onto the turret or have a dedicated ATGM variant.
If there is any reason (though I can’t think of any, even its two TC-2 ARH missiles for BVR) why the F-CK-1A shouldn’t be an entry-level Rank VIII for the ROCAF branch… then the F-16/79 (could even just use the prototype as the basis model) with Sparrow should fill the spot left by properly-equipped F-16A Block 20 being moved up BR.
I just know F-16/79 prototype from USA limited WVRAAM AIM-9 sidewinder only (AIM-9E & AIM-9J), AGM-65A & B Maverick and Mk 82 500 lb general purpose bomb
F-CK-1A it might be early fighter aircraft 13.0 but worse F-CK-1A MLU & F-CK-1C, Mirage 2000-5EI and F-16A Block 20 MLU 2007
The prototype itself was only modified to accommodate the turbojet and therefore didn’t have BVR- I did bring it up only as a basis. The ROCAF sought the F-16/79 (and the F-5G) with the view of adding BVR capability though (sort of a continuation of their unsuccessful attempt at buying the F-4E). The timing was actually at the tail end of AIM-7F’s production, too; if the sale went through, the US would likely have rather sold that than the newer AIM-7M.
The second quote is an “if” statement. While the F-CK-1A has ARH missiles, those are AIM-120A-equivalent, and the F-CK-1A can carry only two. It otherwise has AIM-9P4 and TC-1 (AIM-9L-equivalent) for AAMs.
What I advocate ultimately for Rank VIII ROCAF branch is:
F-CK-1A (2 x TC-2) → Mirage-2000Ei (4 x MICA EM) → F-16A Block 20 (up to 6 x AIM-120C)
I’d love to see the F-CK-1A MLU (up to 4 x TC-2C), too… I just am not 100% sure where it should be.
F-16/79 only if Gaijin should decide that F-CK-1A shouldn’t be the entry-level Rank VIII.