VL Mica
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Since the Somaliland FIAT 6616 is getting added. The Libyan Ratel 20 with the UB-32 rockets could be added next
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Boeing please finish the upgrades
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I think the only 7.92mm equipped tank that we could actually see in the game is the Pz. Ic
Unlike earlier Panzer I’s, it only had one MG34, with the other gun slot fitted out with a specially designed Einbauwaffe 141 (E.W. 141), which used the same ammo as German anti-tank rifles.
For a 7.92 it would be impressive performance, capable of penetrating 25mm of armour at 30 degrees at 100 metres.
But that still isn’t too great, of course, and the Ic is (in)famous for how fast it could go. It would be a balancing nightmare…
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First its gun’d be pretty weak
lets compare with L3 and its 20 mm Solothurn.
35mm pen from smol 7.92mm solid shot vs 38mm pen via 20mm APHE
But … this flaw can be balanced out with : 40rnd box magazine vs 10rnd clip + 100 rpm vs 60rpm + rotating turret + incredibly fast, so can flank n spank
Another similar platform: Sd.Kfz.221- whilst using, its pretty frustrating, even tho, it has 90mm pen squeeze bore anti tank rifle (very low survivability)
tldr* : ^this has better compromises
so 1.0BR is perfect.
7.92 x 94 Patrone 318 vs standard 7.92
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Since talking 1.0 Germany
lemme mention Krupp Leichttraktor again,
37mm firing PzGr. 18 solid AP with 41mm pen and 31kph mobility
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I think the Pz.Beob.Wg.III could also be added as it can provide scouting, and do other task to help the team such as assist in repairs, capture points, and I have previously made a list of all the Rank I vehicles it would be able to kill. I personally would really love to see it in game so I could drive out, scout some targets, and have some friends in hummels take out the target. Tho we will need much bigger maps (long overdue). I quite frankly disagree with the opinion that a vehicle with MGs can’t be added to WT. in my opinion it depends on what that vehicles job was. If it was a recon vehicle or armored recovery vehicle (would make repairs quicker or something) then I think it deserves a chance in WT. I think WT should strive for more dynamic gameplay that encourages teamwork and these vehicles would do just that!
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Still completely useless. It’s a cool ammo type that wouldn’t fit
This thing might honestly just be a German T-60
Why do you think so?
As the fella below you pointed out, it’d be like a German T-60, and that thing’s 20mm has roughly equal pen.
So does the Soviet KT-28 gun, for that matter, and that is 76,2mm. The German 37 KwK 36 only has 10mm more pen either.
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Mainly because the post pen and ammo capacity of the gun would be horrible. The thing only carried about 100 rounds of 7.92 and tbh it would probably preform as well as light apcr shells lol pz1C was a cool tank but I don’t think it’s anywhere near good enough to be added.
Although I do hope for a pz1 in terms of the Spanish civil war one because that’s the only one fitted with a real gun
What is already a incredibly mid gun lmao so now that with non traditional weaponry and ammo I don’t see any solid chance at getting kills plus it wouldn’t even have scouting since it would 1000% be rank 1
The 3,7 cm KwK L/45 does not, fire Pzgr.18, that round is also not solid AP and its penetration at up close is also more than 41mm.
It fired Pzgr. and Pzgr.(A)
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I mean, it is more than 41mm, but only just about…
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Doesn’t mean those guns aren’t already in the game, mid or not.
My point was moreso that the pen value wouldn’t be unheard of for Rank I tanks.
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Pen values wouldn’t be unheard off but again that not the issue. Your using glorified apcr with 20mm of pen on a gun with limited ammo likely horrible post pen damage and horrible velocity. Again the tank is cool but it doesn’t have a place in reality
Actually Germany has plenty of places for crappy tanks. Germany currently doesn’t have a bad Rank I tank, while almost every other nation gets one, so I think it’s Germanys turn. Besides they can always folder it or make it a vehicle that you automatically unlock after getting a rank 2 tank. If It’s able to kill stuff with its gun, it can be added to War Thunder.
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With corrected velocity and weight it can be:
Pzgr. (Aphe) 0,685/0,695 kg 740/760/780m/s 13g Pent (22,1g) 47,87-49,73-51,29mm/10m (depending on source, all of which are primary german ww2 sources)
and
Pzgr. (A) (Aphe) 0,67 kg 800m/s 10g Pent (17g) 53,43mm/10m
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I mean, lets be honest: does every vehicle in this game have to be good? Or can some vehicles also just be allowed to be fun, or niche?
Not to undermine your argument, I get that, but I think that if we only focussed on the tanks that are “good”, then a decent amount of what we have in game currently wouldn’t fit the bill.
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