Next patch and beyond wishlist(Everything except Tech Trees) (Part 2)

Sadly we still lack “proper” evidence to support it having a stabilizer iirc, it’s the same as the V1 we have ingame I believe in this regard. All we know is it has a “fire on the move” capability, and gaijin assumes this means it can’t be stabilized (idk why they think that, seems obvious if you ask me, I guess every tank ever has fire on the move capability but they decided to advertise it here fo some reason? Hmm idk bout that one gaijin). (Also why mention the autoloader in particular? :frogthink:)

What it would have is a new Thermal sight, Laser Rangefinder, now has smoke grenades, (we literally have a laser rangefinder modeled on the V1, but alas gaijin doesn’t care), alongside the better gun (same as Pzh2000 & VIDAR) with the great Israeli HE rounds it has. Outside of those features in particular, the rest remains the same.

(Still want it ingame ofc, really nice follow-up to this, first should have been TT if you ask me, and hope this one will be)

Seems it has a faster loading system than the sholef v1.

This sounds like stabilizer, whats the point of saying your tank can fire in the move if its gonna miss all the shots due to cannon woobling vertically.

In resume, I want this thing because its the closest thing Israel can get and very similar to the pzh2000, vidar and the new british that do not remember the name. Instead of another m109. Just hope its not behind a paywall this time.

It’s the same one, the 6.67s in the suggestion post in from the 9rpm figure, which gaijin chose to ignore for the V1. Very sad (also if you’re gonna refer to that post, ignore it’s “60 degree turret traverse rate” figure lol, alongside it incorrectly saying it got the Merk Mk.3 engine or could use APFSDS, ofekk had a few things wrong in retrospect)

They did buff it in the end, but only slightly. When the Pzh2000 first came out, everyone was complaining about it lacking a burst fire, so they gave it one, and subsequently the Sholef it alongside it (it’s still not enough to reach 9rpm, but much better than it was).

EXACTLY! Literally no point to advertise it otherwise. However I do get why they think this way, as the same argument could be raised as to why it’s not directly advertised as being “stabilized” or having a stabilizer. Sadly doesn’t look like they’ll change their mind…

If it was biblically accurate, it would even surpass them I bet. The main problem yet to be fixed is that it weighs 15 tons excess still ingame (it eated the Merky Mk.4’s weight, that’s the gaijin lore of where that went and you can’t convince me otherwise lmao).
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/McbAXBGPc2MU

It’s also still missing ESS, which will be really helpful on the V2 with its thermals:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/qysY8IlIHwG7

And it has the wrong optics, 3.8-4.0x when it should be 8x:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/WcJiL4m8PEqP

I can happily settle for it getting its confirmed features, and the ones above, as if done correctly:
It would have one of the best Hp/t ratios ingame, one of the best HE rounds, one of the best muzzle velocities, a LRF, Thermals, smoke grenades, ESS, great hull armor, machine gun fire protected, and a good burst fire capability.

I do as well pray it’s not a premium, here’s to hoping!

Tbf I wouldn’t mind finally getting the M109A5 Doher to act as the follow-up to the M109A2 Rochev. Basically could be a Rochev with the Sholef V1 rounds, seemingly a LRF, and other things alongside the upgrades of being an A5, such as the slightly stronger engine. There’s also the SPARK prototype but idk too much about it myself, gets the kewl L/52 gun tho so that’s neato

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I think you missed how I said of good firepower now a few do exist but wouldn’t help Germany fill gaps. Things like the Marder 105 or Marder 2 (with the 50mm) do exist and the newer kf41 fire support but most of our prototypes from the cold war were mainly ifvs with 25mm or 30mm guns what are really cool but theses simply aren’t good for war thunder