it wont be OP, it doesnt have thrust vector, was less manuevrable than F-22, all it has is sraight line supercruise being decent, no radar, no rwr iirc, no MAWS, no HMD, just aim-9/pitbull 120 (which means sub 16km required)
its a fast 117 that has 4-6 missiles and no gun
they also just passed the F-16XL, which was never a service aircraft, it was a prototype. yak-30 is also a prototype aircraft
Nowhere close to mattering like the AAM-3/9M tracking suspension IRCCM, which is what I’m talking about. People had no idea how to flare those and didn’t have that many flares to spam. However in the IR meta of the time, it would help the EJ Kai remain competitive.
Regardless, I do think it was a grave mistake they skipped over the prototype/early F-2s in favor of an early F-15J to then add the F-15J(M) two updates later.
The reason for the modification is that the RVV’s performance is not enough to fight against the AIM120 . So the Air Force modified it to mount the PL12
Great, maybe it isn’t OP but what purpose does it serve other than being “cool” and putting the US on top
what does that even mean, the F-117s defining traits are no guns, missiles, or speed.
for consideration, doesn’t mean implementation, it means they’re deciding whether or not they should add it, it also doesn’t mean they’ll add the prototype but more likely one with similar capabilities to the F-15E with which it was competing
Yak 30 in game is in production configuration which isn’t too hard for 1940s jets as all they had were guns, the YF-23 would be a prototype as a prototype, unless you want the “what if” production F-23?
yes, It’s what I said recently know
@BearHasLanded well, RVV-AE is outdated is part of the reason. and another reason, which is possibly why older MKK is also modified, is that China don’t import RVV-AE long ago, and the inventory has been almost depleted during usual training.
Gaijin needs to implement the stealth features of Eurofighter and Rafale which have already been reported. Nighthawk came with its stealth into the game, no reason not to apply it to the new top dogs.
Later for sure but right now they just need to fix the radar, stealth needs to wait for a level playing field
What does a level playing field look like to you? Plus they can do two things at once, it’s not either or.
at least let other nations catch up to 14.0 before we go making the Eurofighter and Rafale even better, also I believe the J-10B and F-2 also have some stealth as well as maybe like the MiG-29M/K or something like that
I haven’t seen any sources claimed for F-2, other than some people claiming it. For the Mig series, sources state Mig-35. But to be fair, it’s do or die out here, if you don’t advocate for your aircraft, then it’ll be quickly DOA before Gaijin implements fixes.
You’re probably right about the MiG-35, that and the F-2 are obviously too old design wise to be truly stealthy (the F-2 taking its basic design from the F-16, I know it’s not actually that old) but have been updated with stealthier materials and coatings, TBH I can see 14.0 for everyone easily enough by June, you have the J-10B/J-11B for China, the F-2 for Japan, the JAS 39E for Sweden, and the SU-30SM/MiG-29M/K for Russia and then everyone is there, I also expect the F/A-18C for US and Sweden but IDK if that goes to 14.0
I could see them launching them with the AIM-120C-5s at 14.3 because it’s a relatively low performance airframe for BVR.
I would actually prefer to see Block I AIM-9X so we can start the push towards more advanced IR missiles like the Python 4/5, PL-10, ASRAAM, MICA IR, and IRIS-T
Yep more or less, the F-2 has composite materials and radar absorbent material to be somewhat stealthier than a traditional F-16 but it’s no true stealth fighter or anything. Just more of a bonus from manufacturing.
Tbh I’d prefer not, I think Gen 5 missiles kinda rain on everyone’s parade, I don’t feel like pre-flaring at 10km any time I see anyone.
I would like some higher performance Gen 4 IR missiles such as the Python 4, PL-8B, AIM-9M-10, Magic 2 Mk.2, R-73Ms and the likes.
To me Su-30SM is for March
Generally, agree, I think the 9X Block I could be fine, it still has a relatively short range compared to even the Python 4 or ASRAAM, but I agree that to start with the PL-8B, R-73M and Python 4 make sense, I just don’t see any of those happening without a decent improvement to US IR missile G loads so if the AIM-9M-10 can do 45-50G then sure but otherwise it feels a little mean
The PL-8B, Python 4, R-73M, and the Magic II and AAM-3 getting their real life manoeuvrability should come first.
Well the AIM-9M-10 would just kinda be like the AIM-9M we have now but with a Python 4 seeker. I think it would be a decent trade off to be slightly behind the pack for IR missiles seeing as the US has the best Fox-3s and some high performance BVR airframes.
3 of those aren’t even in the game yet dude and instead of coming first maybe all at the same time so everyone wins yeah