Challenger 3 “TD”
also it wasnt a tech demonsrtator it was the prototype, they do add prototype aircraft
@PestoMystic Both SU-30MKK and MK2 are upgraded to use domestic missiles, MK2 was known long age, while MKK was known recently.
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I wouldn’t quite say this, initial F-X designs were basically a slightly larger X-2 with radar, weapons bays, XF9 engines and XVN3-1 TVC (all of which were prototyped separately). So initially it wasn’t much different from other unarmed prototypes that (for example) have a smaller nose for the lack of radar.
It was only scaled up as much in the later stages, with 26DMU being almost F-22 sized. At that point X-2 could still sufficiently be used to collect flight data, so there was no need for another demonstrator and the project was cancelled in favor of 6th gen development before a final prototype was made.
So arguably I’d still put that up there with YF-23.
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For aircraft they don’t, IDK what goes on in ground but as far as air goes, they need something resembling a finished product, late WW2 aside where necessity and old decision making from a decade ago gave us the Ho229 and R2Y2 we are incredibly unlikely to see anything as prototype looking as the YF-23 or X-2. The only reason we have the Yak-141 is because it was incredibly close to finished when the USSR collapsed, and the program was canceled
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So you want the incomplete (never armed) YF-23 in intended configuration. That is no different from asking for the i complete F-X in intended configuration.
By itself no, but even just the XF9-1 engines alone are considered qualified for the game according to suggestion rules about unfinished prototypes.
And even then Gaijin just make up as they go, we have stuff like F-16AJ that would be considered too far even by those same rules since it never even had any parts made for it and even past that is represented in a fictional configuration in game.
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but there was no F-X, the X-2 had 0 ability to carry weapons iirc, while there was a YF-23, and it did have a weapons bay that couldve been wired up if northrop wasnt struggling at the time
I mean apparently this is technically enough for a suggestion however again without some semblance of what the final thing could have realistically looked like the chances are near zero, this isn’t like tanks where it’s very easy to imagine what if we stuck this gun on this chassis etc, aircraft based off of prototype airframes are very abstract for Gaijin to actually create it
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The YF-23 never had an gun. Had it been excepted Northrop was planning to extend the front add another weapons bay and mount an M61. So if they were to add a pure YF-23 it would only have missiles.
no, i want basic YF-23 prototype with YF120 engine, dropping AIM-9 or AIM-120 (no radar, so for AIM-120 would need to pitbull)
i dont really care, i like it because its cool, would make it even better for stealth fighter testing anyways so it could come even sooner
I mean that feature, as much as I would like it for launching AMRAAMs through IRST doesn’t exist and from Gaijin’s past actions is unlikely to be added
YF-23 would be perfect testbed for high supercruise, better stealth, and pitbull, its a great combo for gaijin
If they give the YF-23 a Mach 1.7 supercruise then they need to give the Eurofighter its 1.6
Also this isn’t coming until after the F-35, giving the US an AMRAAM slinging stealth fighter before any of the rest of the nations in game is a big no go
If the YF-23 is added it would probably be an event or squadron vehicle.
1.6? eft max supercruise is 1.5 idk what ur talking about
and i would grind it out either way
And there was many essential and specific parts of F-X like part of the fuselage, engines and TVC, alongside fully functional radar (tested with weapons from ADTW F-2 platform) and weapons bays (release tests with AAM-4 TDR mock ups, using AAM-4 seeker as the radar was tested with too).
And before you ask, yes there were functional AAM-4 TDR prototypes so it wouldn’t be armed with fictional missiles either.
So arguably while the airframe may have been along further assuming little changes from YF-23 to F-23 compared to the known changes between X-2 and 26DMU, specifically testing of radar and armament was along further with F-X.
And once again, any vehicle specific part is enough. Even if it was just the radar, just the TVC, just the weapons bay or just the fuselage are enough by that standard. YF-23 had an armed plan? Congrats, the whole prototype is a vehicle specific part now.
Both planes could be added if that’s what Gaijin feels like.
Wikipedia says Block 52 for the F-16D’s, but yeah. F-16V for Taiwan would probably be even better than both, right?
For reasons geopolitical, I think Taiwan will get F-15EX’s, and likely in the next few years, that’s all I’ll say about that for respect of the forums.
blk 50-52 is just different engine (with only 100lb thrust diff in AB)
yeah, the F-16V would be far better.
we will have to see