That is Gaijin’s standard. The EAP is a no because the airframe that flew was not intended to be armed. The YAK-141 is a yes because the airframe that flew was intended to be armed.
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The heck happened here, I was gone for one day due to technical issues
Normal RnR thread stuff
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Using X-2 to refer to the whole project as it’s easier than typing 26DMU, but my issue is that the YF-23 imo isn’t enough for addition to the air tree, it is further from completion than something like the Yak-141 and was also scrapped before key decisions were made about it, like if you try and follow the “what if” they picked the 23 instead of the 22 you just end up with an F-22 in a different shell for the most part, just comparing the YF-22 to the F-22 you can see that these are clearly just tech demonstrators not intended as final products
Except it really wasn’t. They ran acoustic tests on the weapons bays and they were made to fit munition. In all purpose they could have received the same minimal change as the 141 and work. But they did have other intentions if they won the contract.
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Yes, X-2 is a big no.
But armed F-X designs had specific parts made that make them (or probably just 26DMU) fit Gaijins standard instead.
Here’s the other thing, I don’t particularly agree with the 141 but at least it is adding something the Russians wouldn’t otherwise get, the YF-23 was in direct competition unlike the 141, when the 141 failed it wasn’t because something else was better it was just canceled, the YF-23 lost to the YF-22 so we got the F-22, there is no missed opportunity there, there was program, it was completed, we have the final result.
They fit Gaijin’s more lax suggestion forum standard. In theory they no longer fit the add to the game standard for non-ships.
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That is the only standard we really have though, anything past that is guesses based on past actions.
For example F-16AJ was an exception made that doesn’t even fit the suggestion standard since it was never prototyped.
So really it’s up to Gaijin to make any final decisions, and while they might have their rules, they are also free to break them and did so in the past.
The AJ is an F-16A MLU with the wrong roundels. So while its one of their stupider recent choices it doesn’t activate the problems that the ‘must have flown and be intended to be armed’ standard is attempting to avoid. Namely weird prototypes with overestimated paper stats.
The vertical tail is cut flat, proving this is a Su30Mkk instead of a J16
The AJ had clear motive, Japanese air hadn’t recieved an update since September 2021, it was March 2023 when they got the AJ, it would have been over 2 years of waiting if they left it until the F-15J, again, I’m not saying it was right to do, but there was a clear reason for it
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You do appear to be right, that’s pretty cool, hopefully the devs are aware and can give some domestic Chinese weapons to their Chinese Flankers
The current in game AJ is a Block 10 with Sparrows, something that never existed iirc. The actual AJ included some other minor changes to the Block 10 airframe currently missing, as well as two additional hardpoints for Sparrows on the landing gear doors together with a two piece landing gear door design like the YF-16A Sparrow testbed.
Neither are existing aircraft, even if they are both based around the existing lock 10 airframe.
The roundels are probably the most real thing about it, since the camo seems to be taken from the F-15J, making it at least semi-historical.
I would have loved to see that, I get why they couldn’t add it but still, it would have been so funny watching someone lose their gear on the runway and have 25% of their missiles go with it. Like if they were going to add a paper airplane anyways at least make it worthwhile
But like I said, the YF-23 and to a lesser extent the X-2 don’t fill gaps in the tree and wouldn’t really add anything worthwhile to the game, the F-22 and F-35 will do what they do just fine without the need to make stuff up
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u mean rudder? if so, it actually isnt cut flat and the tip is just painted white
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damn, that’s hard to see when I’m this tired but you’re right, that is a Chinese domestic
so what it doesnt fill gaps, no one who wants it wants it to fill a gap, they want it because its an awesome jet that goes fast (in supercruise), and its a few wires away from being AIM-9/120 compatible so why not
At the end of the day, once we get all the fun toys, like I said before, paper planes will show up more and more as it’s content and it’s a lot easier to bend rules than it is to start avoiding neglecting other parts of the game like maps and game modes.
It’s supposed to be based off the YF-16A but wasn’t even built in any capacity. One of the requirements was 4 SARH missiles which is why you see gear door sparrows, haphazardly fitted.
If they just gave the F-4EJ Kai the AAM-3s it historically had and then add the XF-2A in the same update we got the F-16C Block 50, it would have also been fine. However that would mean AAM-3 with IRCCM that would be new (as AIM-9M and R-73 IRCCM just wasn’t implemented till the F-16C Block 50 update).
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