I don’t think most people who bring this brochure up are being serious
Doesn’t look like he gets any CM’s too, poor guy got uptiered
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I hope not, but you never know.
Reindeer fart works as CM XD
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Nah that’s what the presents are for
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Pardon me to question but I doubt Turkey has the same reeds as we do over there lol
Did they even trial it? I was under the impression GDLS was only marketing the abrams to UK. But no plan was in place to entertain the idea.
Merry Christmas!
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Merry Christmas everyone!
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Actually, Abrams was quite heavily pushed for UK adoption.
Even local production was offered.
Replacing the Chieftain - The Tank Museum.
^ That was political, but from military assessment side, it was quite good, but the turbine’s fuel economy was the main concern as well as the overall programme costs being the most expensive of the lot.
Even slightly more than the newest Leclerc.
Still boggles me, why they fully terminated the MBT-80 project instead of halting it. They could’ve resumed/pursued it after the Shir-2 adoption.
Probably budget as is always the case
Merry Christmas
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Merry christmas everyone!
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I believe the MBT-80 story goes something like this.
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In the 1970s the Iranian revolution happens and at a similar time Britain discovers Russia is fielding new T80s which the Cheiftain would struggle to fight.
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This makes the British government rush to get a tank into service as fast as possible to stop their tank fleet being obselete. The Shir-2 (later the Challenger 1) was already developed for export (to Iran), the MBT-80 wasn’t, so they chose to adopt the Shir-2 instead and named it the Challenger 1.
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The Challenger 1 had some issues as it was pushed into service so fast, so they very quickly started developing a replacement. This could have been the MBT-80, but it was easier to use the MBT-80’s tech to improve the Challenger 1. Hence, the Challenger 2 was created.
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By the time the Challenger 2 was done the Challenger 1’s issues had been fixed and the Soviet union had collapsed, there was no longer such a need for the MBT-80.
The MBT-80 would have probably been a great tank, if the Iranian revolution hadn’t happened it may have actually been developed.
Instead Britain had work with what they had and fast, creating the capable but imperfect Challenger 1 and 2. Only now, with the Challenger 3, have most of their issues been fixed. It’s a shame that only 148 Challenger 3’s are being produced though
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Merry Christmas
Abrams for UK, well well well, look what i got here
Gaijin loves brochures, dont they :)
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