I missremembered a bit, it wasn’t “no plans on ever”, but “no plans on adding them anytime soon”.
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Yeah, that’s fair, I expect the earliest we might see them is December this year, as a lot can change over the course of a year, but I wouldn’t expect it.
Still hoping for PL-8B on a J-11B for March or June though, but ASRAAM, IRIS-T, AIM-9X, and basically anything that uses an FPA seeker it is too early for.
The Python 4 like I said is in an awkward spot, by itself it would be fine, given that it uses the same tech as the Stinger, which in game is just gate width + suspension IRCCM, it would be very good but realistically it could be added much sooner than most other modern IR missiles, the issue is it creates a situation where Israel is basically the US but better at top tier, and Gaijin probably won’t do that
PL-8B is similar situation, both multi-element seeker.
I feel like the main problem with the P4 would be all the seething and screeching from everyone else to make the jump to IIR missiles to “close the gap”. Would be quite funny to read though.
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The difference is that the PL-8 is the only IR missile the J-11B should realistically carry, and giving it one without IRCCM would be a crime, the PL-8 also has much worse flight characteristics than the P4, it comes off the rail incredibly fast and only pulls 40G I believe, it’s not a good dogfight missile like the P4 is
More Leopard 2s for everyoneeeeeee!!!
I remember it upgraded engine, but basiclly still a worse Python 4, in mobility
yeah, it’s a supercharged Python 3 with IRCCM, and the python 3 already struggles to pull off the rail, like it pulls a lot of Gs but because it’s going so fast that doesn’t actually add up to a lot of turning
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Imma be honest , India shouldve never been a subtree for UK
I am pretty sure 90% of the UK mains and 90% of the Indians both dont want it, not to mention the other nation mains (esp russians and french) seeing a major amount of vehicles go into the tech tree which already has a lot of its own meta stuff
GB just cant be called GB anymore, its literally just a all in one nation, This makes gamemodes like sim very less enjoyable
Not to mention the fact india has A LOT of unique vehicles, and out of those, the latest 2 addition were copy paste slop, (OSA and Strela), instead of those gaijin couldve added SAMAR or TRISHUL anti air systems of india
There isnt even space in the UK tech tree to provide india a dedicated sub tree line, they already had south africa, what was the point adding another subtree there
It should atleast get enough representation to have atleast 1 line
They could do 1 of the 3 following stuff for india :-
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Put India in Israel , not as a subtree but rather as a combined tree, as both of these tree have similar amount of unique vehicles. Now someone may ask, How is israel and india related, israel actually provided india a lot of defence equipment, from air to ground, air to air munitions (rampage, spice, popeye, I Derby ER) along with air defence systems (Barak 8, SPYDER) and countless avionics and radars along with helmet mounted displays, some of these systems i mentioned were join ventures. Israel even managed to put a r73 on a Indian mirage and also did upgraded a lot of indian tanks. There isnt any other empty tech tree which india could go in other than israel, and also india is prob one of the best nations israel could receive. They might even manage to add vehicles before rank 4 in israel making it a full fledged tech tree and also make a very huge naval tree. Now I KNOW india is a UK subtree but vehicles can be still moved, in past italy was in germany before they made its own tt, in past israeli vehicles were in UK and USA before they moved it, same can be done here and even for the next idea
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Making India a subtree :- Many might say it would be copy paste slop, but its not as many people claim it to be, here is a good ground forces tech tree suggestion which i will link here :- Major Update Concept/Pitch - "Call of Mahabharata" - The Indian Nation & Ground Tree
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Giving 6th line for UK to incorprate a subtree line :- prob the sloppiest idea of all, but requires little effort and gaijin can do it
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I feel it can pull some, it’s not that fast, unlike PL-5. I think the fin’s aoa or other things are limiting it
yeah, on the python 3 and PL-8, but the PL-8B has a stronger motor, so it turns less straight off the rail
The video Q&A " Answering Your Questions / War Thunder ", on the official YT channel.
Hunters plural, there 's a second unused one in the files.
That was in the long-term leak from gszabi 's private source, so it seems possible. Not in the nearest of terms though.
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You are a godsend, thank you
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There is one other thing that could work:
Well, it does keep India a sub-tree it also gives it the full space of a tech-tree, along with making it you don’t need to grind the host or sub tree if you just want to play one of the nations.
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This vehicle its way to cool… better add another linx for germany.
good idea but imo if the make a full fledged nation / subtree for india instead of being hidden within folders, gaijin could potentially attract a huge portion of indian playerbase just like they did with china, still a very good idea, one doubt that this will cause still a problem in sim matchmaking
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There are a few ideas about more distinct nation based matchmaking for sim specifically, but I believe that would be better off in a separate suggestion, which would probably have to wait until a rework is implemented.
I could suggest it now, but that would result in nations like Jordan having only one vehicle currently which would be a pain. And unless a rework is done, limiting it to nations with their independent trees changes nothing in the current system, where the only nations that have dedicated trees are already separated by matchmaker.
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There are issues with Sim matchmaking, but fighting like for like aircraft doesn’t have to be one, if you’re playing Russia, so long as you know India is on the opposing team, that should be enough, Russia and India could very well be in conflict, same with Russia and China, the issue is that you don’t know who you’re fighting, you only have a list of potential nations you could be fighting, but if you went into sim and could see for a fact that you as Russia are up against India, both sides are able to actually consider that.
The unrealistic thing isn’t that you have Russian aircraft against foreign operated Russian aircraft, it’s that as Russia, you don’t actually know who you’re fighting.
Less overall team variety in sim games would be a good place to start, you don’t need every match to be 5 v 5 or 6 v 4 nations, you could have, at least for now, 1 v 1 or 2 v 2 nation matches, though sim’s smaller player base may then make that an issue as well
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but K1 tanks would be nice, interesting sidegrade to abrams
The entire air tree would be copy paste though. he’s right in that respect.