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I would like to see this bomb for China
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or the Shilka and T-55/T-54

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They add nothing to Germany that the nation doesn’t already have, so no, they should not be added.

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that’s not entirely correct

Shilka is at 8.0 instead of 8.3 like the gepard, it fills a (small) gap

T-54 adds an Armoured alternative to the Leopard 1 at 8.0

T-55 adds a stabilised alternative to the M48G at 8.3

BMP-2 adds a 30mm gunned IFV alternative to the Marder 1A3

so in addition to adding vehicles that Germany Bought, Used, and still sort of owns those would even add to strengthening the german Lineups at the BRs where they’re most mediocre

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I worded that wrong. I meant that there are indigenous alternatives for all of them, regardless of whether or not they’ve been added yet.

As for the T-54 being an armoured alternative to the Leopard 1, not every nation needs to have every capability. Missing out on one or two isn’t a bad thing.

For the BMP-2, there’s the Marder 2, also.

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Marder 2 didn’t even finish development

Many vehicles in game didn’t. That doesn’t mean it won’t or can’t be added.

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there is no alternative to the Shilka, unless you wanna put the Flakpanzer M42 (Duster) at 8.0

there was no Stabilised M48 and the other one really can’t be increased jn BR

I’ve read about a West German AA that competed with the Gepard that had 30mm cannons, which could go there.

There are other Leopard 1 variants that could fill that gap.

you’d need a full Justification argument for every singe of those Prototypes

the only reason you don’t want the vehicles the German armies had immediately after WWII is because you don’t like them, not because they would be unjustified or hard to claim

you just don’t like the concept for no reason whatsoever

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You know that’s not true.

There very much is a reason, as I have explained time and time again.

I’d even go so far and say adding an M7 Priest in Steingrau with a Tatzenkreutz to mark it’s west German origin would be absolutely fine in game

personally id prefer a Reorganisation of the Tech tree tho

adding a GDR and a West germany Line early on that contains T-34-76/85, M44, M42 and M7 Priest

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every time you’ve explained your reasons for this they boil down to I don’t like that

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My reasoning is that it clutters the tree with completely unnecessary vehicles that fill no gap that an indigenous one can’t and removes some national uniqueness. That is much different from just “I don’t like it”.

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The marder 2 would be at a much much higher br. With the 50mm cannon you have 180mm pen with a maximum of 400 rpm (although it could be set at 150rpm aswell). This would put it at least at 10.0

Germany is still missing a rank 3 light tank and only a east german pt-76b can really fill that gap (a m41 with only solid shot or a Alvis Saladin/sonderwagen 3. two foreign tanks aswell). There are simply no other options except tanks like the spähpanzer kurz which would be another auto cannon tank which struggles to pen even the sides of tanks

For most other tanks I agree but you know gaijin. Half the vehicles we get now are c&p

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Cap zones are in the valleys surrounded by hills there is no any proper means to try even drive to them safely when other team can just camp other side of the valley.
Battles usually go like this:

  1. Teams fast vehicles cap zones while other stay on the hills denying any proper change to recap them
  2. Driving zones consist only three narrow tubes which can be easily camped and blocked, planes are field day bombing all those tightly backed tanks together
  3. Game play is mostly camping behind hills.

In my opinion huge downsides. Its like 38th Parallel but bigger both are trash.

what about the Spähpanzer SP I.C.? Or hell even the VK16.02 i mean we have so many modern vehicles and weapons in game that are completely built on speculation that detailed paper deisgns would be much more “realistic”, I would rather have anything unique than more copy paste. (Also dont forgot the plethora of swiss vehicles that now can be added to the german tech tree)

I was referring to the 35mm version.

It’s just another name of GB1000 I think