more or likley true allot of tech was illeagly sold to china by iai employees(my speculation) ,cause the deisgn similarities are a bit too similar to be a coincidence
The design similarities are all very surface level, and TBH they don’t actually look that much alike, no more than they both look like the F-16 anyways, the basic structure is that of any delta wing with canards which was a popular design of the time, looking at the Eurofighter and Gripen, you also can’t ignore the J-9 which definitely isn’t related to the Lavi and is also structurally much more similar to the J-10
Okay, easy.
-The US is a bajillion years ahead and China only made any progress because of tech theft.
-The US is a bajillion years behind and is never going to catch up.
There, people can pick the one they want to believe and move on. Yes?
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So what did we end up proving there?
Forgot the people denying offical US statements.
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Is this still going off ?
Of course lol.
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It’s gonna be a long 3 months
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It seems to have 3 engines, still, can’t even confirm the photos are real, although the videos look, well, good enough to be real.
February 24th, 2025. Today in RR&D we argued over whether cereal counts as soup. Where update.
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We’re talking about the new “sixth generation” Chinese aircraft right?
The photos are definitely real, nothing about them seems fake. But just because China has an aircraft that looks like that and flies doesn’t mean they have a fully-operational sixth-generation fighter.
It could be an airframe prototype or a technology demonstrator. Or it could be the real thing!
If I’m following the discussion correctly, people seem to be debating whether or not it’s real because of the larger implications for the international aircraft arms race. I’m not sure if what I’m about to say is a hot take, but this might matter a lot less than people are claiming it does. Again, just having an aircraft flying that looks like this one does is not evidence that China has overtaken the US technologically. The US counterpart could just have better opsec than this one, or is at a different stage of the development process. On the other hand, it could be that the institutional bloat of the US MIC has finally allowed China to overtake them, or maybe tech got stolen. We can’t know either of those things for sure. All we can say for sure from those photos is that China has an aircraft that looks like that.
Well we did see the prototypes from SAC, which resembles the prototypes shown in Zhuhai air show. Although still, two distinct prototypes seen on the same day, quite unusual. My take is at least we know China is indeed going with a next gen, and to me this confirms the development, rather than anything else. Also, on a less serious note, looks just like a Christmas tree.
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I think I just took psychic damage
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Well, I caught up on this entire days discussion, and i’ve come to the conclusion that we need to remove Eurofighter.
Reading Jerry & Tommy cope was a far more civilized age of RR&D. We gotta go back. Don’t know when you’re living in the good times until they’re over.
Mad to think people spend all their time on forums during Christmas…
300 unread over night
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The American dorito plane gaijin give you.
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Overcooked dorito.
WTF, what does it taste like, burnt?
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That’s what it looks like, yeah.